I can switch between modes and dim and always have minimal interior ambient light when driving at night - agreed, so much better. Even more important on a boat!
Provide an outlet for charging off an extension cord. I know it wouldn't move much power but it would be a backup to get a little power back into the battery without having to have a special plug or charging station.Ok Scouts,
Our interface designers and engineers are looking for some more feedback from all of you and this time it is on:
What kind of tech do you expect enabled in the car or interface?
Thanks in advance for your opinions!
- Jamie
That’s why they make electrical and duct tapeI have several of those lights scattered around the front compartment of my '23 Tundra, I agree the design is such that you hardly notice them. But there is no way short of electrical tape to turn them off. There are times, limited but real, when I really need to sit in total darkness in a vehicle. It would only be shadows, but my movements would be illuminated. Maybe if SM embraced the 'red forward' concept they could be acceptable.
The technology I expect is this - actual switches and buttons for every function of the car that might be controlled whilst driving. These switches and buttons should as far as possible indicate state through there position so that the driver can know their state and operate them blindly, just by touch and feel. If it’s not possible to indicate state through position the physical tactile controls should indicate state visually. Preferably both.
The only controls accessed only through the main touchscreen should be
1) settings usually accessed when parked
2) switching between different data display screens
3) navigation
4) entertainment
5) Carplay/Android Auto
What ever you do, don’t follow Tesla and Rivian in adding stuff to the touchscreen that should be a physical switch or knob.
“vehicle control is fundamental to building trust between driver and machine and we designed the cockpit controls to be easy to identify and operate by feel alone”
EXACTLY, WHAT YOU SAID!!!! IN ADDITION, take a serious look at visibility for those switches. Down on the dash by my knees isn't a good place -- too far from the line of sight on the road and bifocals don't focus that far away -- plus it takes your body out of driving position. Similarly, not located behind (overly) wide steering wheel spokes. AND, don't rely on notes, bings, bongs, peeps, chirps, or other sounds; road (tire) noise and other environmental sounds drown out most of them anyway.When Toyota unveiled the new Landcruiser they made this statement
This is similar to the approach I was advocating above. I know the design team at Scout have all sorts of gloves to wear when testing controls. I’m thinking you should also have some blindfolds. Design isn’t just about how things look and work, it’s about how they feel and sound. Blindfolds might help designers to focus on the feedback the interface gives through feel and sound. It takes a multi-sensory experience to reinforces trust between driver and machine. The driver must be absolutely certain of the state of each control or trust is compromised.
To illustrate, I’m currently commuting in a small car with a 6 speed manual transmission. 5th and 6th gears in this car are very close together and I occasionally find myself wondering if I am in 5th or 6th. There is no visual indication on the display of what gear I’m in and because the gears are so close the difference in rpm at a given speed is a bit difficult to determine visually or audibly. I can put my hand down to the stick but because there is only a small throw between gears it is again difficult to tell. I find myself pressing down the clutch and shifting the stick to check where it was at. Even after driving 150,000 miles in this car i have a little trouble telling what state it is in! The result is that trust between driver and machine is a bit compromised.
should be ≠ are \\ Much depends on designers/programmers' aptitude/eptitude.All of these things are non-issues in modern 4X4's that offer different drive modes. For example, if you go into Soft Sand Mode, you would expect to hear ZERO beeps from TPMS monitors, since the vehicle already knows that you are in a mode where that is not applicable. Up to the driver to enable the appropriate modality through the U/I, which then prompts the SW for the appropriate messaging (and could suppress non-relevant alerts). Another example would be rear cross-traffic alerts disabled when in tow-mode, or using a hitch mount accessory... Of course, with the caveat that they need to be implemented (or driven to users over time through an OTA).
Great suggestion! I wouldn't want "one pedal driving" level regen every time I lift my foot off the gas when driving on the road but I might if I was off-road. It would be a nice feature to have a choice of regen level when off the gas (accelerator I guess, not "gas"). Level 1-5 would be great but I'd also be happy with low, Med, High. Bury it in the screen menus somewhere because it won't be adjusted often by most, if ever.I dunno if this qualifies as “tech”, I’d consider it more a user interface thing, but I highly value some easy way to adjust regen. Not 1 pedal, rather something like the paddles that Hyundai/Kia EVs have. With an ICE car when I’m going downhill for a long stretch I use the transmission rather than riding the brakes, adjusting it up or down to set a reasonable speed; with an EV I’d want to adjust regen for the same effect. I do not want to have to feather the gas pedal (personally I despise one pedal driving) or ride the brakes. The paddles work well but something like a gear shift could also work.
Related to that, I’d certainly hope for decent blended braking, so when I lightly tap brakes I’m not wasting precious inertia. Physical-only brakes would be a deal breaker for me.
I think an active band like jaguar used on their 2017 f-pace 20d would be beneficial for those who go hiking and overland then they don't have to worry about losing their keys or the fob getting wet or have the key fob be waterproof would be a good alternative.Ok Scouts,
Our interface designers and engineers are looking for some more feedback from all of you and this time it is on:
What kind of tech do you expect enabled in the car or interface?
Thanks in advance for your opinions!
- Jamie
Next Gen CarPlay support would be awesome! Something like the Kia EV9 ultra wide display would be an excellent form factor, or the duel screen setup of the Ford Bronco Raptor. This would give tremendous opportunity to have a customizable mix of analog and digital information as preferred by the driver. I love a good sized touchscreen, but knobs and dials are very satisfying with their haptic feedback - see Rivian R2 steering wheel controls. A knob is a great way to quickly adjust settings like volume.At a base minimum, CarPlay support. Being on board with Next Gen CarPlay would put this car at the very top of my list.
I definitely think simplicity and a streamlined interface is key; timely information and control on a screen with multimodal knobs and buttons reduces the chance you obfuscate the system with too many buttons. This requires more interface design but reduces component cost and complexity.With everything that people have listed here, there is no way this would be an affordable EV.
This answers the statement I made (in a different post) about this Scout not being what people who own Scouts now think, because the present drivers think they need everything at their fingertips.
It would be ideal if SM incorporates the Car Connectivity Consortium “Digital Key” tech that powers Apple CarKey. That would easily enable key sharing, or using a smart watch to unlock the vehicle with proximity.Ability to send a "key" to anyone
I truly wish it could all go voice activated. Always had Acuras and liked it. I now have a Honda accord (hybrid) and I don’t even need to hit talk button to activate Siri. Just wish more/all changeable functions could be voice optioned because then you never have to take eyes off the road. I adjust music selections and volume, voice over text reads and writes and manage phone calls all while hands are still on the wheel. If only cruise control was voice activated.This topic is exciting!
For my taste I prefer any and all screens placed in the driver area of the vehicle to have functional purpose. I find that screens can easily be a distraction in cars. Many manufactures are focusing on some sort of "screen war" to have the largest and most amount of screens packed into a car. Many of these items don't have any real purpose or function and only add cost and distraction to the end user.
Tech is best used to take away the need to focus on making an action and replacing it with an easy reaction. This frees up the driver to focus on where they're headed and who is around them.
As for the "nerd" in all of us. I find it super useful to get easy readouts in thins like tire pressure or battery usage.