What kind of tech do you expect enabled in the car or interface?

[J Alynn]

I have solar in Alaska, 3 months of dark…. And I’m ~2500 miles further north than you…. My ROI was 7 years.

At the time we were exploring solar roofs and solar field for a 240 unit 50+ neighborhood so 1-story homes with large roof areas. After exploration the payback couldn’t be justified. Not arguing-just stating facts based on working with energy consultants. We went with horizontal geothermal under the largest retention basin as our final decision. That actually worked much better financially. All that said-I’m extremely biased. As an architect, solar panels on roofs are terrible aesthetically. I’m all in favor of solar fields, wind turbines, etc.. when planned properly but solar panels are worse than 4-5 satellite dishes sticking off of homes. We all have our pet-peaves and dislikes and that is mine. I’m off my soapbox now. I’ll bow out gracefully on the topic

 

[Rustic_father]

No need for driver assist stuff: I despise the nanny-ware on other cars like lane keeping. Try out a high end Volvo, then make it the opposite of that, those cars are infuriating with all the non stop warnings and beeping and weird steering responses. The only ADAS function I want is adaptive cruise and maybe descent/crawl mode for off road.

I agree with this completely. This is something I'm not fond of in my tesla. while I'm sure the driver assist features are useful for 90% of everyday users...car enthusiasts typically do not need/want driver assist features.

Here is a list of a few drivers assist / nanny-aware features in my BMW and tesla that i have experience with and don't like:

• BMW front collision warning/Breaking: this system works terribly. Not only does the system chime loudly when it detects a garbage can on the side of the road on a turn that happens to be in front of you for a moment, but it also breaks when i'm trying to pull into my garage. If I'm trying to inch forward it will break and just make it suck
• Tesla lane departure warnings: the lane departure warnings usually are just fine on the tesla but there are some finicky times that the car thinks I'm going to crash. Apparently turning in to my neighbor's driveway is one of those instances.... even though i have my blinker on and everything the car will yell at me and tell me to "TAKE OVER IMMEDIATLY."
• Tesla auto take over: While i've seen countless videos of Teslas taking over the steering and reducing or even avoiding a collision there are sometimes that make it frustrating. I've only experienced this once but i was taking an off ramp from one highway to another. I know how to drive so i took an aggressive line through the curve and anticipated the next curve. However, there was a guard rail that the car thought was a grave threat and steered me away from it.... that kind of nanny is not appreciated.
• Tesla Auto blinkers: This was a new feature from an update a few weeks ago. The blinkers would automatically turn off after a lane change. In the beginning it was helpful because sometimes lane changes take longer than the standard 3 blinks for a soft indicator. But the computer tried to think too much. often it thought the hump in the middle of a residential street was the lane line and would turn off my blinker too early. or it wouldn't count it as a lane change if i moved into a new lane (to include left /right turn lane)...in the end i turned it off because it wasn't saving my any extra thinking while driving.

the only driver assist feature i do think is important is a front collision and break engagement system. Just being real there are situations that a computer can act upon that can make a big difference in a split-second scenario. While i really like Tesla's Auto pilot (adaptive cruise control and auto steer for lane keeping on highway), I don't expect or do I really want it for the scout. I only road trip a few times per year and so it isn't something i use every day.

 

[J Alynn]

I agree with this completely. This is something I'm not fond of in my tesla. while I'm sure the driver assist features are useful for 90% of everyday users...car enthusiasts typically do not need/want driver assist features.

Here is a list of a few drivers assist / nanny-aware features in my BMW and tesla that i have experience with and don't like:

• BMW front collision warning/Breaking: this system works terribly. Not only does the system chime loudly when it detects a garbage can on the side of the road on a turn that happens to be in front of you for a moment, but it also breaks when i'm trying to pull into my garage. If I'm trying to inch forward it will break and just make it suck
• Tesla lane departure warnings: the lane departure warnings usually are just fine on the tesla but there are some finicky times that the car thinks I'm going to crash. Apparently turning in to my neighbor's driveway is one of those instances.... even though i have my blinker on and everything the car will yell at me and tell me to "TAKE OVER IMMEDIATLY."
• Tesla auto take over: While i've seen countless videos of Teslas taking over the steering and reducing or even avoiding a collision there are sometimes that make it frustrating. I've only experienced this once but i was taking an off ramp from one highway to another. I know how to drive so i took an aggressive line through the curve and anticipated the next curve. However, there was a guard rail that the car thought was a grave threat and steered me away from it.... that kind of nanny is not appreciated.
• Tesla Auto blinkers: This was a new feature from an update a few weeks ago. The blinkers would automatically turn off after a lane change. In the beginning it was helpful because sometimes lane changes take longer than the standard 3 blinks for a soft indicator. But the computer tried to think too much. often it thought the hump in the middle of a residential street was the lane line and would turn off my blinker too early. or it wouldn't count it as a lane change if i moved into a new lane (to include left /right turn lane)...in the end i turned it off because it wasn't saving my any extra thinking while driving.

the only driver assist feature i do think is important is a front collision and break engagement system. Just being real there are situations that a computer can act upon that can make a big difference in a split-second scenario. While i really like Tesla's Auto pilot (adaptive cruise control and auto steer for lane keeping on highway), I don't expect or do I really want it for the scout. I only road trip a few times per year and so it isn't something i use every day.

I agree with you on the majority. That said, to get the highest crash rating all that crap is required and I’m sure Scout Motors can’t avoid it. I think they should add it all in and then for $20 cash, the dealer should have the forescan set as first option to disable each and every item a buyer doesn’t want to deal with. Having a young driver I think those safety features are all very worthwhile. As a seasoned, spirited driver I hate every single one of them except…. Sometimes I like the parking sensors when pulling in my garage but a front camera switch solves that and avoids forced braking as you mentioned. Should be a manual way to turn on and off but I guess that creates liability 🤔

 

[ColeAK]

I agree with this completely. This is something I'm not fond of in my tesla. while I'm sure the driver assist features are useful for 90% of everyday users...car enthusiasts typically do not need/want driver assist features.

Here is a list of a few drivers assist / nanny-aware features in my BMW and tesla that i have experience with and don't like:

• BMW front collision warning/Breaking: this system works terribly. Not only does the system chime loudly when it detects a garbage can on the side of the road on a turn that happens to be in front of you for a moment, but it also breaks when i'm trying to pull into my garage. If I'm trying to inch forward it will break and just make it suck
• Tesla lane departure warnings: the lane departure warnings usually are just fine on the tesla but there are some finicky times that the car thinks I'm going to crash. Apparently turning in to my neighbor's driveway is one of those instances.... even though i have my blinker on and everything the car will yell at me and tell me to "TAKE OVER IMMEDIATLY."
• Tesla auto take over: While i've seen countless videos of Teslas taking over the steering and reducing or even avoiding a collision there are sometimes that make it frustrating. I've only experienced this once but i was taking an off ramp from one highway to another. I know how to drive so i took an aggressive line through the curve and anticipated the next curve. However, there was a guard rail that the car thought was a grave threat and steered me away from it.... that kind of nanny is not appreciated.
• Tesla Auto blinkers: This was a new feature from an update a few weeks ago. The blinkers would automatically turn off after a lane change. In the beginning it was helpful because sometimes lane changes take longer than the standard 3 blinks for a soft indicator. But the computer tried to think too much. often it thought the hump in the middle of a residential street was the lane line and would turn off my blinker too early. or it wouldn't count it as a lane change if i moved into a new lane (to include left /right turn lane)...in the end i turned it off because it wasn't saving my any extra thinking while driving.

the only driver assist feature i do think is important is a front collision and break engagement system. Just being real there are situations that a computer can act upon that can make a big difference in a split-second scenario. While i really like Tesla's Auto pilot (adaptive cruise control and auto steer for lane keeping on highway), I don't expect or do I really want it for the scout. I only road trip a few times per year and so it isn't something i use every day.

I turned off auto signal and lane departure warning on my 2018 model 3 in the settings options.

My 2013 Lexus LX had buttons to turn on/off almost all the nanny’s.

For an off roader being able to turn off parking sensors is a must.

 

[EmbraceTheEv]

-Wireless Android Auto/Apple Car Play
-App interface. (Similar to FordPass)
-6" touch screen radio standard. 10" upgrade option
-Dedicated spot for large phone to sit (possibly wireless charge
-360° camera with sensors on all corners
-Physical knobs/ buttons and touch screen Climate control. Dual climate control option
-Amient Lighting with multiple colors
-Digital gauges that mimic the Scout ii
-Heated Steering wheel option
-Standard 4way adjustable bucket seats. 8way option
-Selectable Drive modes
-Hill Descend mode
-Automatic lift glass and rear tailgate
-2 or 3 speed shiftable electronic gearbox
-Variable Ride Height Adjustment

 

[J Alynn]

As I sit here in my wife’s Acura MSX on a 9 hour trek from central Pa to Louisville I’ve come up with another suggestion. Integrated charging cords that automatically spool into the console and rear seat area. My wife’s phone is on the mag charger and her phone case is hit or miss. So for the moment while running navigation apps she is now using the rear cord charger. My daughter’s in the back with hers plugged in and I’m killing my battery posting this because the rest of our cords are in the travel bag in the rear out of reach. Cords running everywhere. If there could be a spooling coil USB connector (so various charger cords could connect) that hides the cords that would be cool-though probably pricy. Then you could always have several in the vehicle but tucked out of sight rather that hanging all over the front and rear floor/console areas.
Or maybe a ledge shelf at passenger and rear center console with add options for more mag chargers. Vehicles seem to have room for 20 water bottles/yetis but only a few usb ports for the potential 4-5 passengers all carry/using phones