How much personalization/modification ability do you want to see in the new Scout?

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J Alynn

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This is by far one of the most annoying parts about buying a car are the packages.....
-If you give me a list of options let me choose those without requiring me to buy an entire package. Just because i want to upgrade my ifotainment system doesn't mean i want to buy the whole "technology package" that costs $7,000 that gives me remote start and interior mood lighting. I understand that sometimes one option being tied to another option is required...such as off road suspension might need an upgrade to the drive train....or a towing package might require AWD (ford Maverick and VW id 4).

In my packages should be a bundle of similar options that may or may not be required together, then put together as a slight discount. This might encourage someone to buy a package that has 1 or 2 options that they may or may not needs but might take because they want the other 4 things in the package.

Options should be able to be selected alone without requiring any other options. If it requires another option it shouldn't be listed alone.

To piggy back on this part too. I don't mind paying extra for colors, but one thing i hate that VW does is locking colors behind trim levels. As an example the Base Id4 only has base White, Grey, and black colors and you need to go up 1 or 2 trim levels to "unlock" the Blue or the Red colors.

This goes also to my problem with packages. If i want the base model in blue why should i have to upgrade the trim level when the upgraded trim comes with leather seats or other things that i don't want.

Honestly there is zero reason for a paint limitation. During the manufacturing proccess the vehicle isn't assembled at all when it is painted, so what difference does it make if the metal gets painted blue or white...it doesn't affect what gets installed after.

I really hope that the scout will have all colors available to all trim packages for escalating costs depending on the factors of the pigments.

I will say that i understand if they want to reserve a single color for the highest trim....but the tiered blocking is something i can't stand.
100% agree on your thoughts and have posted similarly on other threads. I will add a bit that maybe there are a couple of special colors only available on a heritage or Ralleye or monster Off-road package that makes them more limited but agree the 90% of colors should be available on ALL models. Not that I would buy it-but a killer black-out package would be cool too. Always like the look of a blackout package with great, unique rims. I just don’t want to keep it clean so I wouldn’t buy it but would love it if my neighbor does 😀
I also think a couple limited colors for first run buyers (hint, hint) would be great so us early adopters could have something that is much more unique. Like when Range Rover offered a unique interior with houndstooth seats. Just a couple items that scream heritage and separate us from the late adopters
 

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So this may sound a bit dumb and frivolous but RGB interior accent lighting is really cool, especially if you can have two different colours. I thought it was gimmicky in my Ioniq 5 but turns out it's really cool and you can really personalize the feel of the car. The Ioniq 6 does one even better than my car letting owners choose two different colours. They can be linked to drive mode so they turn green in "eco" mode, red in "sport" mode etc. Or you can pick a colour using a colour wheel. They're a nice touch and everyone who gets in my car seems pleasantly surprised by them and I often get a "cool!!".

Just something to consider. Interior lighting is necessary and LEDs make it so it can be pretty cool-looking as well.
 

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My two cents are if you offer packages to have a “heritage” package that is the removable top, factory moderately aggressive lift, carpet delete, rain resistant interior, perhaps more minimal electronics with what digital displays used mimic heritage or retro design. Then to have other more “standard” call-them-what-you-will, packages that have carpet and the sort. I know you have done likely high value market research and you know your target group already…I don’t know if the “heritage” package I speak of would line up with that but for good will you should offer something like that (I think).

Customizability really depends on volume and market opportunity…some of this comes from seeding the market I think with the right information…for example: don’t be and EV, be an off-road vehicle that is an EV…another example is OEM tires listed should be LT tires or Costco for example will refuse to mount LT tires to customers vehicles…getting the right information into the right databases, manuals, and people.

Don’t be VW and not understand what a WD hitch is and spread inconsistent information regarding its use. It shouldn’t freak out the Europeans just because of the Euro trailer industry banned WD because they wanted to keep the US trailer manufactures out….I know different topic but a real issue why euro cars don’t outright state you can use WD…

On the truck: people that tow need different mirrors, prewired brake controllers, and an actual plug at the back that meets standard US 7 pin rv… and on and on…
 
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Spiegelglatt

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Some other thoughts and perhaps this isn’t the right place but this made me think:

The “heritage” package (post above) I think is a driver to most folks that buy. For example when people think Jeep they don’t see a stock wrangler…they see something lifted with big tires and no top…this is free marketing basically for the majority that don’t end up buying that.

Then I thought can you have a center point, rear motor driven winch that uses a system like flat bed recovery trucks use to pull from a side or back based on how the cable is secured in different channels (let out under vehicle and run up to desired port and then fed through)? Basically a center point going to front or back sides and either corner…mechanically I think this is possible with a guide wheel the pivots in the direction the resistance is coming from and then feeding back to the spool. Before off-roading you can let it out and hook it to the front port in the bumper and from there move as needed or as possible (deep mud for example). Also should be able to drive with this out…no nanny crap. Probably stupid idea, but have to ask if possible would be first I heard of.

On rubber floor, what about selling full kits front, middle, rear that match the build paint color and then just black (obviously white and lighter colors wouldn’t work here). They could go in anything rubber floor or not and would be factory fit and latched in so they don’t move around.
 

LastDayScout

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So this may sound a bit dumb and frivolous but RGB interior accent lighting is really cool, especially if you can have two different colours. I thought it was gimmicky in my Ioniq 5 but turns out it's really cool and you can really personalize the feel of the car. The Ioniq 6 does one even better than my car letting owners choose two different colours. They can be linked to drive mode so they turn green in "eco" mode, red in "sport" mode etc. Or you can pick a colour using a colour wheel. They're a nice touch and everyone who gets in my car seems pleasantly surprised by them and I often get a "cool!!".

Just something to consider. Interior lighting is necessary and LEDs make it so it can be pretty cool-looking as well.
My iX has this feature and the family likes it.
 

IdahoJOAT

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Ok Scouts,

Our interface designers and engineers are looking for some more feedback from all of you and this time it is on:

How much personalization/modification ability do you want to see in the new Scout?

This can be anything from colors and trim, to aftermarket modifications, interchangeable parts of the car, and more.

Thanks in advance for your opinions!

- Jamie
The interior would be nice to modify the different screens beyond just the themes. It's really annoying to have a Tuscadero Jeep and then see a white jeep on the screen when we're doing things. Seriously. How hard is it to match the on screen vehicle to what was ordered?

The exterior: Bumpers, grill and fenders need to be able to swap easily. Most off-roaders do this almost off the show-room floor.

Standard stuff :)

Apologies, I'm much more of a "that's a good idea" or "that's not a good idea" kind of guy. I play well and help mold ideas more than dream them up. I get new ideas as I'm using an item.