Reserved the Terra - BEV version. I don't plan to tow or go on adventures long enough to need the Harvester option. I'm a big fan of the EV driving experience and don't want the additional maintenance of a gas engine. I've been wishing I had an EV truck for some time, and the aesthetics of this rig is by far my favorite of the available options. I love my wife's Model 3, and I like the "computer on wheels" nature of the vehicle, but I do which it had a few more knobs and buttons, so I'm quite excited about this truck.
Poll- What have you Reserved... Let's get a small idea of the take rates.
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Traveler-Harvester reserved, live in TX now.. KC later.
Ill be trading in my 2018 GMC Terrain Denali for the Scout.
Ill be trading in my 2018 GMC Terrain Denali for the Scout.
I told my husband he should reserve the Terra so we both have Scouts.. he just got a Jeep though.
I disagree with your premise. The statistics say for the VAST majority of americans, a 150 mile battery would let them run on battery power for almost all of their driving. Most people don't go more than 150 miles in a day except maybe every month or two.
I do not expect the EREV to run all the time, but only when needed. You can see from the CES demo that the idea is that (unless you know you're going to need the range and hit max mode), it will likely only come on when you're nearing the end of your 150 miles. I would also expect it to be looking at your route and nav destination to know if it should start charging or just stay turned off because you'll easily make it to your home without using the harvester.
I reserved the Terra-Harvester. For 90% of my driving the pure BEV works just fine. However, my Rivian R1T doesn’t cut it when I’m towing my camping trailer to remote parts of Utah/Idaho/Wyoming.
I also reserved the Traveler pure BEV. I’m hoping I can convince my wife that that is the vehicle for her
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I also reserved the Traveler pure BEV. I’m hoping I can convince my wife that that is the vehicle for her
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Have you owned an EV?
Just asking, because - on paper - 225 mile range made sense for us, but in real world application, it left us short more often than we expected.
The stated EPA range is probably 85% of what you’ll get in the real world. So, 150 according to Scout gets you 125 with highway speeds and other factors. 350 gets you 295.
For our weekly home to job commuting, about 22 miles each way, we’d be topping off Level2 at home twice a week. I don’t know how to explain it, but daily commuting for a few days does not add up to exactly 132 miles over 3 days. It’s more like 150 or 170 with errands and other incidental jaunts.
So, let’s hope we get as much as we can. Four years in a BEV has opened my eyes to the realities of range.
Coming at things from a PHEV perspective (my PHEV has a 33 mile range), we plug in after every trip. So the 150 mile range of the harvester feels decadent to an extent.
But, I guess most pure BEV owners don't charge up every time they return home, and instead charge once every week or so? That would make sense, although I could see that giving me some range anxiety at first.
I do still really wonder how they'll treat the battery of the Harvester. IE, most BEV vehicles are charged to 80% charge "on the regular" to reduce battery wear. But, PHEV's usually have a larger buffer (ie, their "100%" is actually closer to 80%), because they know it will be charged more often, and because the range is smaller so you're more likely to want to charge it all the way up.
But, I guess most pure BEV owners don't charge up every time they return home, and instead charge once every week or so? That would make sense, although I could see that giving me some range anxiety at first.
I do still really wonder how they'll treat the battery of the Harvester. IE, most BEV vehicles are charged to 80% charge "on the regular" to reduce battery wear. But, PHEV's usually have a larger buffer (ie, their "100%" is actually closer to 80%), because they know it will be charged more often, and because the range is smaller so you're more likely to want to charge it all the way up.
Yes, I owned an EREV with a really tiny range (and early i3). It's 77 mile stated range did leave us short a few days, though most days was fine (about 15 miles each way to work, so a typical day would be driving 30 miles, say 35 if you had a few stops to make). If we were on a Saturday running all over the metro area (soccer games, seing inlaws, etc), then 77 miles wasn't enough (just barely). That's why I think 150 mile battery only range would work really well for almost everyone's day to day, and it just seemlessly turns the harvester on if you happen to go 200 miles one day.
We charged every night at home, with a 120V wall outlet and always woke up with a full battery. Since the Scout has a larger battery (probably 4x larger in the 150 mile version), I would invest the $400 in a level two charger so it could similarly easily fill the battery overnight even if I pull into the garage "empty" of electrons.
I just find with the way the Harvester is expected to work, that it won't really matter. My buddy has a BMW X5 PHEV and with it's range only being like 50 miles or so before it flips to gas, a tank of gas lasts him like two months. They are a VERY busy family with two kids in sports so they're traveling every night to some destination on top of normal traveling around and the gas engine just comes on automatically as needed, and then they just plug it in when they get home for the evening.
Net, they barely use any gas, but they NEVER worry about range either because the gas motor picks up without the driving having to do anything except add gasoline every couple of months and plug it in the garage when you pull into the house for the night. They are thrilled with the ownership experience.
Well I reserved both, I will make my final decision when I actually see them up close and the production vehicles. But right now it’s a coin toss. They’re both great looking vehicles.
This closely aligns with my ownership experience of the PHEV I have so far. Despite its limited EV only range of 33 miles (13.8KWh useable), we get a lot of EV only miles out of it.
For the last 7600 miles (no big road trips in this data set), we've averaged ~246mpg. This means that in those ~7600 miles, we've used < 31gal of gas. My old jeep gets 14.5 mpg, which means it would have used almost exactly 500 gallons of gas to go the same distance.
We once went 2385 miles on one tank of gas (its an 11 gal tank, but we only put in like 9gal) over the summer as well.
150 miles of EV range, would cover almost everything for us, other than road trips. And it basically means round trips to anywhere up to about 1hr away (of highway driving) should be EV only.
As mentioned before, I have the reservation for the harvester atm, but depending on pricing and what our other vehicle situation looks like when it comes time to actually buy, we could go with the BEV version as well (whatever our trip vehicle will be for the family, will likely be a PHEV/EREV for the next 5-10 years).
I reserved the Terra BEV. Hard choice, as I like the look of the Traveler, but I do still get the occasional load of firewood, or several bales of hay for my wife's rabbits, so the Terra is probably the more useful choice for me.
Reserved a Terra Harvester and can’t wait for this to be my first ever Truck. Owned a 1998 Wrangler Sport 4.0L for 7 years with no regrets, but I have a feeling the Scout brand will overtake my Jeep passion for years to come.
As a fellow Jeeper, welcome! Current Wrangler owner and can’t wait for the Scout!
I reserved a Terra Harvester. I have a BEV so will using the Terra mainly as a hauler/towing vehicle (replacing my current ICE hauler/towing vehicle). An EREV pickup with >100 miles of pure electric range will be perfect for my needs. It will be used mainly for short trips to the dump and hardware store with the occasional (2 or 3 a year) long trips towing a trailer with heavy loads. Right now I am planning to keep my existing BEV, but if the battery range of the EREV Terra is good enough, I may sell the BEV and use the Terra as my primary vehicle.
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