Did the same but reserved the Traveler and also looking at the R1S. Interested in the new Macan EV also. Had a R2 reservation but canceled that and switched it to the Scout figuring if I went with Rivian I would go for the R1S over the R2.
Poll- What have you Reserved... Let's get a small idea of the take rates.
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I grew up in the 80's. As long as I can remember I had a great desire to own either a Scout II or a Jeep Grand Wagoneer. I was near getting a Jeep Grand Wagoneer in high school but never close to getting a Scout. When the Jeep Grand Wagoneer was reintroduced I was very disappointed that it did not maintain any of its legacy attributes. When I saw the introduction of scout motors two new vehicles, the Traveler and the Terra, it immediately spoke to me on an emotional level. So many throwbacks to their forbears. I can't wait for the opportunity to go to South Carolina and see my order come off the line. All of you at Scout Motors are lucky to be a part of something so great. If a qualified position were to open I will be the first to apply.
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Anyway-welcome aboard-sounds like we have similar memories of the Scouts!
Traveler for me. 350 miles of range is good enough for my mountain adventures. Plus less things that can go wrong. I cant wait.
Feel the same way. Unless you plan on using it to tow heavy loads or long off roading better off not having the extra maintenance of an engine.
I'm going with the Traveler-Harvester. I'm just learning about the new Scout brand, and this is a community I want to be a part of. Our household has a Chevy Bolt EV we love and level 2 charging in both Rochester Hills and Petoskey. The ICE car we need for the long drives in the winter is a Subaru Outback. The Traveler is going to replace the Outback! I have worked in automotive marketing for most of my career, and I can tell (don't ask me how) that this brand and product lineup will be a winner. Combining an iconic legacy and an innovative approach to empowering us with true capability and timeless style will tick all the boxes. The enthusiasm is real! Let''s go!
Quantum scape battery might be used for scout since it has high density in smaller footprint, this would also allow smaller 3 or 4 cylinder engine to fast charge solid state batteries.Check this out:
PowerCo confirms results: QuantumScape’s solid-state cell passes first endurance test
The solid-state cell is considered a technology of the future and the next big step in battery development. The technology promises longer ranges, shorter charging times and maximum safety. The U.S. company QuantumScape has recently reached an important milestone, which was now confirmed by...www.volkswagen-group.com
Jamie has already noted that the launch vehicle is Highly unlikely to use solid state but as the tech becomes proven in mass testing it could be a valid option. It’s all moving forward but not successfully enough to go in the first round/first gen of the new Scouts
FYI. This would be a great post for the Extra, extra thread since this thread is focused on what members have reserved and not really about battery options. Appreciate you sharing it.
If you plan on towing or off-landing/ camping a lot the harvester is absolutely worth having. I will not be using mine for any of that so it is just extra maint and cost for me so I went with the regular BEV option. Will also be interesting to see how much extra they charge for the Harvester option and how many change their reservation after seeing the additional cost.
Currently I think the prevailing theory is that the harvester might actually be the cheaper option.
The difference in battery size is pretty significant (in the vicinity of ~100kwh, or roughly the size of the entire Kia EV9 battery pack), and with batteries being one of the biggest cost drivers, most have theorized the harvester will be cheaper (as a gas engine and gas tank are pretty cheap in comparison).
Who knows at this point. I'm a fence sitter atm. Currently reserved a Harvester, but depending on implementation and cost, I might go with either.
I didn't know the harvester model was getting a smaller battery. Kind of makes sense because you are going to want to run that gas engine somewhat regularly also. If that is the case and the battery is 100kw smaller that is a huge difference in battery cost. Think the battery in the model 3 is 80kw and around $20kish (did a quick search don't hold me to this exact number) to replace. Engine is much cheaper then that for sure. Would probably buy a R2 if the purse EV cost that much extra... Looking at $80k to start at that point. Of course all speculation also so going to have to wait and see what prices end up being...
Just want to say this is a great forum to get up to speed.
What about weight of the full EV vs harvester model?
So, the info is all buried around here. And of course its all guesswork (but we try to be educated about it
).But basically, if we assume that the Scouts will get ~2miles per KWh of battery in terms of efficiency (between the Rivian R1, and Hummer in efficiency, which I think makes sense based on size/looks/tires, and makes math easy).
If we know that the harvester model gets ~150 miles of EV range, then that means the harvester battery is ~75kwh in size. And by the same token, if the largest battery version gets 350 miles of range, then that means ~175kwh of battery.
A Kia EV9's battery is 99.8KWh, and its apparently ~1200-1300lbs. I did the math one time on what we thought the gas generator engine would be, what it weighed, and how much ~10-15gal of gas weighed, and IIRC it was in the ballpark of ~400-700lbs. If you dig around in my post history you might find it.
So, purely guessing, I'd assume the Harvester would be at least 500lbs lighter than the BEV version.
Its possible that the pure BEV version could use a different battery chemistry (that gets more KWh of capacity, for the same weight), which would change the dynamic some. But I'd still bet the harvester will be lighter.
We get to learn about it eventually
.is the poll now closed? I reserved both terra and Traveler, all are the electric + gas version.
I put a reservation in due to the CarPlay rumor. Just saw a video of it in the UX. Wish it was 2.0 thoNO on diesel and CarPlay has been spied and unofficially confirmed. You got one win
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