At this point, I have little clue what the vehicle to be revealed will be - with a laundry list of hopes (abet I am not all that hopeful will be included), and a handful of non-negotiables (which I am not optimistic about within a realistic price - but can still hope for 1 more week).
5k towing limit with reasonable range is outside of any realistic hope for me. It would need to be a very different vehicle than I am expecting. A Wrangler Unlimited hits the 5k tow limit, but not with all engine options - and is probably really stretching what it can do enjoyably. The Bronco (at least the 2023 version) only gets up to 4.5k - and only with the Raptor version, all other options are 3500lbs or less. 3500lbs is ok - I don't really expect to want to tow more than that with it. (I already have a good serious towing vehicle, and no EV currently made could easily replace it). FWIW, most of what I have read has indicated that even an F150 has a max tow rating of 5k without a load distributing hitch (but that is probably the lawyers talking).
Range is a bigger issue. A great tow rating is mostly useless to me if I can not get to my destination. My common drive is a 200-240 mile round trip - but it does not have a charging option at the middle - the charging availability is at 60 and 140/180 miles into the trip. I would most likely need to charge 2 times if I towed. The only real reason I would want to use it to tow would be IF it had dog/camping mode - and again, I don't know how much range it would loose to run the AC overnight (camping mode is one of my non-negotiables - along with a place to sleep).
I don't mind doing things that help the environment, but it is not a major selling point to me either. My interest is more pragmatic. What will it be able to do that I can not already do easier/better with one of my current vehicles. I already have very good towing, off-road, and fuel efficient vehicles. So I am hoping for something that is good enough with those 3, while adding features I don't already have (like camping mode and driver assistance). Sadly, this post has made me think both Rivian and Cybertruck might fit that criteria - will the Scout fit it better or more economically?
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On the optimistic side, most of the complaints about towing range with EV's are probably with the EV towing a load near it's tow limit. While the Rivian generally has a 7.7k tow limit (5k without load distributing hitch-and the tri-motor version has a much higher tow limit) - I have to wonder what it's tow range would be with a 3k trailer.
5k towing limit with reasonable range is outside of any realistic hope for me. It would need to be a very different vehicle than I am expecting. A Wrangler Unlimited hits the 5k tow limit, but not with all engine options - and is probably really stretching what it can do enjoyably. The Bronco (at least the 2023 version) only gets up to 4.5k - and only with the Raptor version, all other options are 3500lbs or less. 3500lbs is ok - I don't really expect to want to tow more than that with it. (I already have a good serious towing vehicle, and no EV currently made could easily replace it). FWIW, most of what I have read has indicated that even an F150 has a max tow rating of 5k without a load distributing hitch (but that is probably the lawyers talking).
Range is a bigger issue. A great tow rating is mostly useless to me if I can not get to my destination. My common drive is a 200-240 mile round trip - but it does not have a charging option at the middle - the charging availability is at 60 and 140/180 miles into the trip. I would most likely need to charge 2 times if I towed. The only real reason I would want to use it to tow would be IF it had dog/camping mode - and again, I don't know how much range it would loose to run the AC overnight (camping mode is one of my non-negotiables - along with a place to sleep).
I don't mind doing things that help the environment, but it is not a major selling point to me either. My interest is more pragmatic. What will it be able to do that I can not already do easier/better with one of my current vehicles. I already have very good towing, off-road, and fuel efficient vehicles. So I am hoping for something that is good enough with those 3, while adding features I don't already have (like camping mode and driver assistance). Sadly, this post has made me think both Rivian and Cybertruck might fit that criteria - will the Scout fit it better or more economically?
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On the optimistic side, most of the complaints about towing range with EV's are probably with the EV towing a load near it's tow limit. While the Rivian generally has a 7.7k tow limit (5k without load distributing hitch-and the tri-motor version has a much higher tow limit) - I have to wonder what it's tow range would be with a 3k trailer.
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(by this I mean copy's of each vehicle, not something other than the 4 door SUV or Pickup)
