Scout Design Ideas

[TA_n_TN]

Just some design ideas for the new Scout...
The thing that former and current Scout owners love is the sense of freedom / airiness when the top is off like in the pic of this Scout 800

Jeeps and Bronco’s used to have this sense of airiness in the previous versions but in the new versions shown below, because of the pillars / window tracks, it hardly feels that the top is off at all. The new Bronco does a better job of opening things up than the Jeep but it is still confining.

If at all possible in your design journey on the new Scout, please try to keep the open air spirit of the original as much as possible. I know that safety dictates that there be occupant protection in case of a rollover incident, but it doesn’t have to be obtrusive the way the new Bronco or new Jeep are designed. Think minimalist with a rollbar like the pic of the Scout 80 below. Very good occupant protection but still very open and free to the sky.

Just a thought on how to raise and lower side windows on a “minimalist” rollbar equipped 4 door Scout would be to look at the side window design of a mid 1960’s (’65) Lincoln Continental Convertible shown below. The side windows on it could be raised or lowered independently and the rear side window had a seal on its front edge that sealed against the back edge of the front side window to keep out wind / weather.

My personal body style preference is the Scout II and if you could make a 4 door Traveler I'd be all over it, as I'm currently looking at the feasibility of adding rear doors on a '77 Traveler for practicality sake of getting passengers and gear in the back seat area. So the idea of the Continental windows converging together is what I'm looking to incorporate in the Traveler.
Todd (TA_n_TN)

PS. I grew up 20 miles from the Fort Wayne, IN International Harvester Scout plant, so on behalf of all of us out here in “Scout Land” that grew up with Scouts, have owned Scouts, or just appreciate the history of this iconic brand, I want you to know how glad we are that this is coming back and that we are rooting for you and the rest of the Scout Motors Team!

 

[JohnnyScout]

Watch out for electric leaf blower turbochargers

 

[ScoutThink/%]

What size would you guys like for the new scout suv to be? Full size? If they do add a front bench seat I would love for it to be actually comfortable.

 

[ScoutThink/%]

I hope that scout motors can make their models somewhat affordable. It would be cool if they could also make an even more affordable smaller scout in addition to the regular scout and scout pickup. Like Rivian with the r2

 

[ScoutThink/%]

Another thing that I would like to see is some type of handlebar to help pull myself into the Scout. Just to make it easier getting in.

 

[Bodie]

What size would you guys like for the new scout suv to be? Full size? If they do add a front bench seat I would love for it to be actually comfortable.

I want it to be the size of a Scout II, no bigger than the Traveller for a 4 door.

 

[TaconicBear]

Another thing that I would like to see is some type of handlebar to help pull myself into the Scout. Just to make it easier getting in.

That should only be necessary if SM follows the current (North American) pickup trend to make vehicles as high off the ground as possible. I hope they look to the original Scouts and Rivian for guidance in this respect. As I often said when buying my '23 Tundra "I want the power without the climb". I'd actually like SM to think about the airport tugs, low, convertible, with the power to haul a 747 around. Just gear it for the highway and put prettier sheet metal on it.

 

[GotScout]

I fixed it (again)

 

[ScoutThink/%]

I’m not sure if this idea is possible, but I want your opinions about it.

I want the c pillar to be foldable/removable.

I was thinking about how the old scout 80s could be used as a pickupand a SUV

The A and B pillars would not be removable for pickup mode.

The c section could be like a bolt-in roll cage by AGI. And the A and B pillars would be permanent.

Also a segmented roof like the bronco would be nice.

For the pickup mode you could have a panel to seal the front portion away from the bed.

The scout would need to have a front bench seat to make this truck mode even more practical.

 

[J Alynn]

I’m not sure if this idea is possible, but I want your opinions about it.

I want the c pillar to be foldable/removable.

I was thinking about how the old scout 80s could be used as a pickupand a SUV

The A and B pillars would not be removable for pickup mode.

The c section could be like a bolt-in roll cage by AGI. And the A and B pillars would be permanent.

Also a segmented roof like the bronco would be nice.

For the pickup mode you could have a panel to seal the front portion away from the bed.

The scout would need to have a front bench seat to make this truck mode even more practical.

Could be interesting but if SM is making a truck too it seems like a lot of extra cost for probably a low take rate. Sorta like the Jeep gladiator has the removable soft top. That could be nice for the pick up.
If the SUV has a removable top you could just remove rear seats and if it has a tailgate setup that would basically be a truck mode but without a complex C pillar. I like the roll bar but prefer it be more like Bronco where it doesn’t take away much if any shoulder room in the rear

 

[GotScout]

Yeah... I'mma 'no'.

 

[JohnnyScout]

Could be interesting but if SM is making a truck too it seems like a lot of extra cost for probably a low take rate. Sorta like the Jeep gladiator has the removable soft top. That could be nice for the pick up.
If the SUV has a removable top you could just remove rear seats and if it has a tailgate setup that would basically be a truck mode but without a complex C pillar. I like the roll bar but prefer it be more like Bronco where it doesn’t take away much if any shoulder room in the rear

Since the (obvious to me) plan might be a separate pickup on extended chassis, similar to how Gladiator and Ineos Quartermaster are longer wheelbase than the SUV they are derived from then it foes not make much sense to have a Scout SUV that converts to a pickup as did the 80/800

 

[GotScout]

STOP TALKING ABOUT JEEPS... they need to focus on OUR brand...

 

[scoobydoobydoo]

@Jamie@ScoutMotors , fwiw, I absolutely love the idea of resurrecting the scout. I'm all in and patiently waiting to hit the reserve button. Hear me out.

We were r1s rezzy holders and excited to own one, but honestly were discouraged with 2 factors. 1, it was nice, but not $80k nice. 2, by the lack of rear cargo room. Def would not suit a family of 4 for a long weekend of camping. Roof racks, tailgate racks, yeah...but we were disappointed.

One thing we did love about the r1s, as simplistic as it may sound, was the dual folding tailgate. Its the same tailgate as on bmw x5's. I have a 2 place bike rack on my x5 and with the rack flipped up, the tailgate can still open and close. It's so simple but a life saver! Plus when i park on a grade, all my shit doesnt roll out!! I often see people that just leave the rack tipped partially down, or people having to fold their rack down before opening the tailgate. Then folding back up after loading.

Look, I am sure there are loads of those that prefer a carryover design language, and honestly that is why we are all so freaking excited about being the owner of a new scout!! Just wanted to throw out the above hooraah for the possibility of not making me fold down my bike rack to open the tailgate (please!). Those that share the open air love of nature and also are into cycling, you'd get me.

Thanks!!

 

[J Alynn]

Since I’m hoping the top will come off I would ask for a reasonably priced mesh Bimini top that fits well and again-is reasonably priced. Daughter’s Bronco has one, we spent like $100 b/c ford wants like nearly $400 if I remember correctly.
Just give thought to how to fasten and draw tight because no matter what Bimini top you buy for the Bronco it just doesn’t fit super great.
What would be great would be a groove in the roll bar and a light weight aluminum frame that locks into place. That might be worth $400 since presumably it wouldn’t flap around here and there at highway speed

 

[GotScout]

Since I’m hoping the top will come off I would ask for a reasonably priced mesh Bimini top that fits well and again-is reasonably priced. Daughter’s Bronco has one, we spent like $100 b/c ford wants like nearly $400 if I remember correctly.
Just give thought to how to fasten and draw tight because no matter what Bimini top you buy for the Bronco it just doesn’t fit super great.
What would be great would be a groove in the roll bar and a light weight aluminum frame that locks into place. That might be worth $400 since presumably it wouldn’t flap around here and there at highway speed

Break out the chain saw... any top can come off!!!

 

[J Alynn]

Break out the chain saw... any top can come off!!!

How about a DeWalt saw-saw and a couple battery packs in the spirit of an EV

 

[GotScout]

A coal powered bandsaw lubed with whale oil.

 

[Bodie]

Since I’m hoping the top will come off I would ask for a reasonably priced mesh Bimini top that fits well and again-is reasonably priced. Daughter’s Bronco has one, we spent like $100 b/c ford wants like nearly $400 if I remember correctly.
Just give thought to how to fasten and draw tight because no matter what Bimini top you buy for the Bronco it just doesn’t fit super great.
What would be great would be a groove in the roll bar and a light weight aluminum frame that locks into place. That might be worth $400 since presumably it wouldn’t flap around here and there at highway speed

The new Bronco bikini top sucks because they made it to stay on with the roof on. I would rather have a metal piece that bolts to the top of the windshield in the holes the top was using just like the original Bronco. The metal piece has an inverted U channel that a metal strip on the front of the bikini slips into and wraps over the top and back. Secure with a strap on each back corner. Takes about 5 minutes to put on the windshield piece(once) and about 2 minutes to put on or take off the bikini top with no tools. I think the Scout II is the same but I don’t have a bikini for it.

 

[GotScout]

The new Bronco bikini top sucks because they made it to stay on with the roof on. I would rather have a metal piece that bolts to the top of the windshield in the holes the top was using just like the original Bronco. The metal piece has an inverted U channel that a metal strip on the front of the bikini slips into and wraps over the top and back. Secure with a strap on each back corner. Takes about 5 minutes to put on the windshield piece(once) and about 2 minutes to put on or take off the bikini top with no tools. I think the Scout II is the same but I don’t have a bikini for it.

It's called "awning rail"...

 

[tellis923]

One thing I really liked on my Scout was the linear effect of the gauges across the narrow dash.

Offer an edition with fewer screens. My friends Rivian already seems dated and they use their phone more often. Otherwise have the screen in tablet form with mount that can be updated and locked up sticky fingers.