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Just some design ideas for the new Scout...
The thing that former and current Scout owners love is the sense of freedom / airiness when the top is off like in the pic of this Scout 800
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Jeeps and Bronco’s used to have this sense of airiness in the previous versions but in the new versions shown below, because of the pillars / window tracks, it hardly feels that the top is off at all. The new Bronco does a better job of opening things up than the Jeep but it is still confining.
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If at all possible in your design journey on the new Scout, please try to keep the open air spirit of the original as much as possible. I know that safety dictates that there be occupant protection in case of a rollover incident, but it doesn’t have to be obtrusive the way the new Bronco or new Jeep are designed. Think minimalist with a rollbar like the pic of the Scout 80 below. Very good occupant protection but still very open and free to the sky.
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Just a thought on how to raise and lower side windows on a “minimalist” rollbar equipped 4 door Scout would be to look at the side window design of a mid 1960’s (’65) Lincoln Continental Convertible shown below. The side windows on it could be raised or lowered independently and the rear side window had a seal on its front edge that sealed against the back edge of the front side window to keep out wind / weather.
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My personal body style preference is the Scout II and if you could make a 4 door Traveler I'd be all over it, as I'm currently looking at the feasibility of adding rear doors on a '77 Traveler for practicality sake of getting passengers and gear in the back seat area. So the idea of the Continental windows converging together is what I'm looking to incorporate in the Traveler.
Todd (TA_n_TN)

PS. I grew up 20 miles from the Fort Wayne, IN International Harvester Scout plant, so on behalf of all of us out here in “Scout Land” that grew up with Scouts, have owned Scouts, or just appreciate the history of this iconic brand, I want you to know how glad we are that this is coming back and that we are rooting for you and the rest of the Scout Motors Team!
 

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tellis923 said:
One thing I really liked on my Scout was the linear effect of the gauges across the narrow dash.

Offer an edition with fewer screens. My friends Rivian already seems dated and they use their phone more often. Otherwise have the screen in tablet form with mount that can be updated and locked up sticky fingers.
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Design is tricky, between tried and true, and cutting edge... you can get so far ahead of yourself that nothing works. Calls to memory the dash of the Aston Martin Logonda!! So far ahead that it was a fail.



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ScoutThink/% said:
I hope that scout motors can make their models somewhat affordable. It would be cool if they could also make an even more affordable smaller scout in addition to the regular scout and scout pickup. Like Rivian with the r2
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For me, the Scout 2 size is just about perfect. You can carry 5 people and still have pretty good storage behind the 2nd row. It's still easy to park in an urban area or fit down a tight trail or driveway, but it's not tiny. In addition, because it's electric, you can have a huge front frunk (perhaps some storage for the driver/luggage/etc) and a lot of room in the under the hood area for things that might be permanently mounted like the HVAC system, inverter, air compressor, etc.). The latter could be under a cover (or not, it would be cool to have it NOT all hidden under plastic panels).

With how far suspension technology has come in 50 years, they should be able to keep the tight turning ability (the Scout 2 is an amazing runabout in part because it's so effortless to turn in sharp spots) but still have it track beautifully down the highway at 80 MPH.
 
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tellis923 said:
One thing I really liked on my Scout was the linear effect of the gauges across the narrow dash.

Offer an edition with fewer screens. My friends Rivian already seems dated and they use their phone more often. Otherwise have the screen in tablet form with mount that can be updated and locked up sticky fingers.
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I wouldn't mind digital gauges with an infotainment centered and knobs for temperature controls only.
 
Had a chance yesterday to see the new Nissan Z in person. Thats another example of a really nice blend of classic Nissan/Datsun and modern vehicle. Hope Scout design is similar in approach.
Looks really good in person, especially the rear taillights -retro in the most modern way possible
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J Alynn said:
Had a chance yesterday to see the new Nissan Z in person. Thats another example of a really nice blend of classic Nissan/Datsun and modern vehicle. Hope Scout design is similar in approach.
Looks really good in person, especially the rear taillights -retro in the most modern way possible
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I concur, the Z and Challenger are IMO the best looking modern car at this moment. The interior of the Z is also remarkable.
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J Alynn said:
Had a chance yesterday to see the new Nissan Z in person. Thats another example of a really nice blend of classic Nissan/Datsun and modern vehicle. Hope Scout design is similar in approach.
Looks really good in person, especially the rear taillights -retro in the most modern way possible
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I like the 2 doors, but... does the roof come off?
 
I know by now the exterior design is locked in as the Scout SUV is to be shown this summer. BUT I am hoping it has the simple exterior of the original Scouts but with a dash of the current Land Rover Defender.
 
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TRONZ said:
I know by now the exterior design is locked in as the Scout SUV is to be shown this summer. BUT I am hoping it has the simple exterior of the original Scouts but with a dash of the current Land Rover Defender.
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gross.... Do you even Scout dude?

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Jamie@ScoutMotors said:
Be nice... :cool:

There are elements of the Defender interior that are kinda cool. Ours will be better... :D
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I do like the simplicity of the defender interior from the passenger dash panel and stamped defender badging. In addition the center console looks ergonomic. Not too sure about that shifter location.
 
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Yes, I like allot of those ideas.

I want to add... Comfortable Seats! We rented a wrangler on a recent trip and the vehicle was ok all around, but the seats were bad!

When we got it, we didn't feel it. But as soon as we got back to our old (2010) Sequoia, we were all saying, the old Sequoia seats are way better.

The wrangler seats were short and narrow, they had weak bolsters and the seat bottom angle was too flat, and there was no adjustment, so you feel like you are being pitched forward out of the seat.

I hope Scout Motors designs and builds their own seats, or at least taps into the VW knowledgeable. We used to have a 3rd gen Jetta 1.8t, that vehicle had nice seats.
 
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Wyoscout said:
Yes, I like allot of those ideas.

I want to add... Comfortable Seats! We rented a wrangler on a recent trip and the vehicle was ok all around, but the seats were bad!

When we got it, we didn't feel it. But as soon as we got back to our old (2010) Sequoia, we were all saying, the old Sequoia seats are way better.

The wrangler seats were short and narrow, they had weak bolsters and the seat bottom angle was too flat, and there was no adjustment, so you feel like you are being pitched forward out of the seat.

I hope Scout Motors designs and builds their own seats, or at least taps into the VW knowledgeable. We used to have a 3rd gen Jetta 1.8t, that vehicle had nice seats.
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I know not everyone wants power features but I would love power seats included with 3 memory settings. The Bronco is manual only and when a different driver uses it the seats get moved and to move them back is a pain to get exactly into the previous sweet spot. If manual is the only option, design the adjuster to have markings like 1-8 on floor and tilt mechanisms so you know driver 1 is seat 4 and tilt 6, etc…. I’d be Ok with manual if that type of narked system was utilized
 
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J Alynn said:
I know not everyone wants power features but I would love power seats included with 3 memory settings. The Bronco is manual only and when a different driver uses it the seats get moved and to move them back is a pain to get exactly into the previous sweet spot. If manual is the only option, design the adjuster to have markings like 1-8 on floor and tilt mechanisms so you know driver 1 is seat 4 and tilt 6, etc…. I’d be Ok with manual if that type of narked system was utilized
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A must for an option! If you want manual, get manual...but if you want power options they should be there for an option!! I also know some love the nostalgia of crank windows, but no thank you! Needs power windows for an option as well.
 
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Wyoscout said:
Yes, I like allot of those ideas.

I want to add... Comfortable Seats! We rented a wrangler on a recent trip and the vehicle was ok all around, but the seats were bad!

When we got it, we didn't feel it. But as soon as we got back to our old (2010) Sequoia, we were all saying, the old Sequoia seats are way better.

The wrangler seats were short and narrow, they had weak bolsters and the seat bottom angle was too flat, and there was no adjustment, so you feel like you are being pitched forward out of the seat.

I hope Scout Motors designs and builds their own seats, or at least taps into the VW knowledgeable. We used to have a 3rd gen Jetta 1.8t, that vehicle had nice seats.
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Wyo… watch this (then surf the other related vids)

The best seat option in a Scout (II) are Saturn seats! They are insane, safe, strong and COMFY!!
 
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TA_n_TN said:
I know that safety dictates that there be occupant protection in case of a rollover incident
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I was thinking about this yesterday as a new model Mustang convertible rolled by: Why doesn’t a Mustang, or literally any other convertible, require the same rollover concerns? The novelty of topless has worn off for me already after just about 3 years of Bronco ownership, so I don’t really care if the Scout is topless or not, but I am curious about the distinction between topless off roaders and convertible sports cars.
 
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