Learn from the Bronco

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Chaparral

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Ford got a lot right with the Bronco. The extremely high demand and long wait times for the Bronco, despite it underpowered, inefficient and polluting engines are indicative of this.

The Scout needs to be a real off-roader that goes toe to toe with a Wrangler or Bronco. That means at least matching the off road capability as well as having a removable roof and doors.

Keep it simple. The Bronco’s removable roof that also allows for roof bars is almost perfect, and versatile with multiple roof options. There’s no need to give electric cars futuristic styling, that all looks bad, just keep it classic like Ford did with the Bronco.

Keeping it simple will also help to keep the price competitive with the Bronco and Wrangler.

If the design team are not off road enthusiasts that also understand the after-market for customizing off roaders they may as well just give up. For example, sensor placement needs to take into account that off road enthusiasts are going to switch out the bumper with some after-market one. Get this stuff right and they will love the Scout.

The design team needs to thoroughly understand for example what makes the Bronco a great off roader and the Defender a poor one. This would include the fact that the Defender has very high pressure, rather low profile tires on large rims that do not perform well when aired down - small wheels with big tires and a bead-lock option are the way to go even if they don’t appeal to city buyers.

If you want to know what to make just watch a ton of YouTube videos of Wrangler and Bronco enthusiasts nit-picking about how their vehicles could be slightly better.

If only the Bronco was electric I would buy one in a heartbeat. There’s no sign that Ford are making an electric Bronco. That gives Scout a window of opportunity to take a market that has not yet been served by electric. Rivian have largely failed to serve this market because they were obsessed with competing against Tesla when they should have been focussed on the actual off road world.
 
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Impossible to please everyone. 2" receiver in the rear is all but standard in large parts of the US. That said, dealers still charge extra for it. Front 2" is significantly more rare - aftermarket only and even then I seriously doubt it would pass crash tests. For a farm vehicle, it is very convenient - but outside of specific work vehicles, it all but does not exist. I have 4 vehicles I use on the ranch, only 2 have front receivers - and one of those is a SxS.

As for 2 door - well then we can fight about wheel base. Plenty of people love the short wheel base, others prefer 4 door - but they probably like it as much for the handling as the 2 extra doors. I have a white whale - a LJ... 2 doors, but extended wheel base. Jeep did 2 or so years of those about every 10 years. They kept bringing them back then cancelling them. It's been over 15 years, and I don't think they are coming back. The real problem now is they don't add sales - they either steal from the 2 door short wheel base or the 4 door longer wheel base. No profit to make them really.
 
Saw this thread on Bronco6G and found it interesting. No real knocking on the Rivians but good info to think about in regards to EV motors and split torque. Was just some things I hadn’t directly thought about living in the semi-snow, northeastern section of the country.
 

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