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CarTechGeek

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I know there are many requests for 2 door Scout as a direct analog to the Bronco/Wrangler 2 doors, but these really don't sell well, despite all the online requests.

That isn't what I have in mind. I'm thinking something more Rav4 like in size and efficiency. This is my ideal sized vehicle, and it is the #1 selling non pickup truck in the USA, so if you want to target a segment after the pickup and mid size SUV, it's a natural target (and would have much more sales than a 2 door Wrangler analog).

I know these are derisively referred to as "Cute-Ute", and universally they have quite low capability, but that is how Scout could stand out from the field. It doesn't have to match it's bigger brothers off road, just clearly best the "Cute Utes". Just a bit better ground clearance, better approach and departure, and crucially an available, real, rear locker would put it far ahead of the "Cute-Utes", while maintaining their practicality, drivability, and park-ability... That would be a stand out in one of the biggest market segments there is...

Call the Sport in comparison to Bronco Sport, or call it Eagle Scout...
 
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Yes, many tractors still have this feature on the rear axle. Kubota also has what is called Bi Speed turn for the front axle.

"Kubota Bi-Speed Turn" is a feature on certain Kubota tractors that allows the front wheels to automatically turn significantly faster when the steering wheel is turned sharply, enabling the tractor to make tighter turns with greater maneuverability, particularly useful in tight spaces or when mowing around obstacles; essentially, the front wheels speed up when a significant steering angle is reached, making sharp turns smoother.

Key points about Kubota Bi-Speed Turn:
  • Function:
    When the steering wheel is turned past a certain angle (usually around 25-30 degrees), the front axle is automatically sped up, allowing for tighter turns.
  • Benefits:
    Improves maneuverability in tight spaces, like when tilling close to existing rows or mowing around trees.
  • How it works:
    The system automatically adjusts the speed of the front wheels based on the steering angle.
Here is my friend and fellow Kubota dealer Neil Messick showing how it works. I could definitely see Scout using this idea to increase maneuverability.
Super cool.

Very similar to what I was mentioning before with my buddy and fwd-low, pulling the front of the vehicle around. But this one is implemented in an automatic way (and still driving the rear tires id assume).

Something like this combined with cutting brakes, could really increase the off-pavement maneuverability.
 
Another "similar" implementation (on 4 wheels, or tracks for that matter) is in a Piston Bully, Skid Steer or Bobcat... Most fun you will ever have doing 360's while "working"... Drive one side forward, while pulling the second side backwards.
 
Another "similar" implementation (on 4 wheels, or tracks for that matter) is in a Piston Bully, Skid Steer or Bobcat... Most fun you will ever have doing 360's while "working"... Drive one side forward, while pulling the second side backwards.
My zero turn lawnmower is similar.

When I worked commercial landscaping in high school, we always argued over who got to drive it, or the bobcats :D.

(side note, the stand-behind bobcats, can be crazy to drive on pavement, and it can really get bucking around like a rodeo bull... good fun :D).
 
My zero turn lawnmower is similar.

When I worked commercial landscaping in high school, we always argued over who got to drive it, or the bobcats :D.

(side note, the stand-behind bobcats, can be crazy to drive on pavement, and it can really get bucking around like a rodeo bull... good fun :D).
Loved the zero turn grasshopper mower we had when I was growing up. And the Kubota tractor
 
Yes, many tractors still have this feature on the rear axle. Kubota also has what is called Bi Speed turn for the front axle.

"Kubota Bi-Speed Turn" is a feature on certain Kubota tractors that allows the front wheels to automatically turn significantly faster when the steering wheel is turned sharply, enabling the tractor to make tighter turns with greater maneuverability, particularly useful in tight spaces or when mowing around obstacles; essentially, the front wheels speed up when a significant steering angle is reached, making sharp turns smoother.

Key points about Kubota Bi-Speed Turn:
  • Function:
    When the steering wheel is turned past a certain angle (usually around 25-30 degrees), the front axle is automatically sped up, allowing for tighter turns.
  • Benefits:
    Improves maneuverability in tight spaces, like when tilling close to existing rows or mowing around trees.
  • How it works:
    The system automatically adjusts the speed of the front wheels based on the steering angle.
Here is my friend and fellow Kubota dealer Neil Messick showing how it works. I could definitely see Scout using this idea to increase maneuverability.

Lol... Design cues from Kubota

Sounds like a Scout Binder/Reaper to me...