Realistic range concerns.

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Central Oregon Guy

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Last year I bought my wife a new car. It was going to be a Tesla; but we settled on a Toyota RAV4 Prime (plug in hybrid). The reason we didn’t get a full battery electric vehicle is due to the lack of charging infrastructure in Central Oregon. We often do road trips and with a battery electric vehicle would not be able to return home on the same day or continue our journey; due to a lack of charging stations. I have started to see a few new charging stations (Detroit, Oregon), but not enough yet to alleviate my range anxiety.

My primary vehicle is a Toyota 4Runner, it is rugged and reliable; but it is not electric. I use it primarily as a daily driver with weekend trips to the Wilderness for hunting trips. My last hunting trip was 120 miles one way in freezing temperatures. Depending on the availability of charging stations; I wouldn’t be able to make a return trip in a vehicle with limited range like the Polestar 2 or Nissan Leaf. Please make the Scout with a realistic range (regardless of temperature) for the people who will actually use it outside of cities.
 
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As far as range goes, I wonder with the high customization possibility if we'll essentially be able to select the largest battery size without the extra knick knacks.
 
At this point, I expect it is a lot less about new technology increasing range for the Scout - but more the economic decision of which currently commercially existing technology to use. There are several currently produced batteries with much better watts/lb - but honestly at this point they will lucky to be in supercars by 2027. Maybe they will make it into peoples cars in the early 2030's, but even that might be optimistic.

As for realistic range - realistic by the consumer, or by Scout. I have not researched every EV by VW group - but the ones that I have researched come up short on range (at least for my taste). I can hope that Scout will do better, but more batteries cost more money and add more weight. The newest battery tech could change the weight factor, but simply is probably not in the budget by 2027.
 
At this point, I expect it is a lot less about new technology increasing range for the Scout - but more the economic decision of which currently commercially existing technology to use. There are several currently produced batteries with much better watts/lb - but honestly at this point they will lucky to be in supercars by 2027. Maybe they will make it into peoples cars in the early 2030's, but even that might be optimistic.

As for realistic range - realistic by the consumer, or by Scout. I have not researched every EV by VW group - but the ones that I have researched come up short on range (at least for my taste). I can hope that Scout will do better, but more batteries cost more money and add more weight. The newest battery tech could change the weight factor, but simply is probably not in the budget by 2027.
I’ll found out as much as I can. I know some of those details are not completely ironed out yet. A lot of that has to do with what you mentioned about what technology is currently available vs what is just around the corner. I imagine we will hear some basic range goals.
 
As an EV owner who has driven 35,000 miles in the past 12 months, a long range batteries imperative.

If Scout ca approach or exceed 400 miles in range it will be competitive with Rivian.

At less than 300 miles of range, I will not purchase the Scout.
Did you see the Harvester option?
 
I have an ID.4 with a 285m range. On an 800m road trip last year charging was a boring affair. We didn’t have any range issues - but when you need to stop more often than you need a sit-down meal the drive becomes a bit of a drag. Of course that’s like 3% of the trips I’ll take in the year so it’s still a great car.

The Scout w/ harvester will replace a Ford Explorer for those road trips and towing, and /also/ make driving on electric the main option for 97% of my needs. It /still/ would be nice if the Scout could get at least 200m of EV only range. The more the better - but I know it’s a balance of range and weight.
 
ABRP is the best EV trip planner I've found as well.
 
We are all-electric with an F-150 Lightning (7500 odometer miles; 320 mile range) and a Mustang Mach-E (43,000 odometer miles; 312 mile range). We've been all over the US southwest, from Redding, CA to Houston, TX, Los Angeles, San Diego, and everywhere in between. I regularly make an 1100 mile round trip between northern Arizona and the Los Angeles valley for work and to visit family.

Refueling at home when we're not on a road trip has saved us so much more time and money than the time it takes to refuel on the road. When we had two gas vehicles, we were refueling at least once a week.

We're looking at the Traveler EV-only as a replacement for the Mustang since we'll have about 120,000 to 150,000 miles on it by 2028. Can't wait to see the Scout in person!