Hybrid - too please?

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Thomas

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Greetings - I know the landscape has changed a lot since it was announced that this was to be an EV only. Can’t wait to see your new announcement of the HYBRID version -too. Your CFO and the rest of the finance team will be thrilled!
Cheers!
Thomas
 
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While they are at it how about a straight ICE, a 450hp big block that gets 12mpg, a diesel and sure, throw in a bio-diesel too and then The Golden Arches can sell the French fry grease to the fuel stations since there is a MCD’s in every town across America it will even be convenient near trail heads and more rural locations across the U.S.. This way every single SUV shopper can get exactly what they want. I’m sure the finance team can work with marketing to figure out how to sell $90K vehicles. I’m sure the skateboard platform and/or frunk they are deeply into design with will easily accommodate an engine. I’m sure the new $2 billion dollar manufacturing facility that is under construction can easily be reworked to include an engine plant and five more assembly lines. Maybe there will be just enough room left for a hydrogen model too. They haven’t even officially shown the prototype and you are trying to redesign the fundamental mission statement.
I feel like the crotchety old neighbor yelling at the kids to get off my lawn.
Probably a bit much but I’m tired tonight and literally just read the new “no EV” post an hour prior. Same concept, different thread name. sorry for the rant
 
Hybrids are just gas cars wearing a lazy disguise. They don't save you much fuel (or money!), especially if you do a lot of highway driving. They still pollute, they still mean annoying trips to the gas station, they usually cost more than an equivalent gas-only vehicle and they are more mechanically complex which means they're less reliable (just ask Volt owners!).

No.

Hybrids are a non-starter in 2024. They were fine a quarter century ago but times have changed a lot. Battery electric vehicles are better than a hybrid in literally every way. Don't believe Toyota's marketing hype around hybrids. They're pushing for hybrids because trying to catch up to EV automakers will be expensive for them and they don't want to invest in newer, better technologies.
 
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Hybrids are just gas cars wearing a lazy disguise. They don't save you much fuel (or money!), especially if you do a lot of highway driving. They still pollute, they still mean annoying trips to the gas station, they usually cost more than an equivalent gas-only vehicle and they are more mechanically complex with means they're less reliable (just as Volt owners!).

No.

Hybrids are a non-starter in 2024. They were fine a quarter century ago but times have changed a lot. Battery electric vehicles are better than a hybrid in literally every way. Don't believe Toyota's marketing hype around hybrids. They're pushing for hybrids because trying to catch up to EV automakers will be expensive for them and they don't want to invest in newer, better technologies.
I’m averaging 40+ miles on the Accord Hybrid which compared to my Acura TLX type S at 20mpg I saw a HUGE improvement (87 octane vs 91 as well for more $$ savings) but EV will certainly be my next move so very hopeful SMs gets it right. I was very leery of hybrids and EV’s even a year ago but the hybrid has opened my eyes and hoping EV does even more. A buddy of mine just bought a Mach-E and numerous acquaintances with Teslas and everyone loves them.
Anxious for the future!
 
Great responses. But the Germans want to sell cars and won’t tolerate the low volumes of the EVs alone. Short leash. They will need options. I will bet a beer on it!
 
Great responses. But the Germans want to sell cars and won’t tolerate the low volumes of the EVs alone. Short leash. They will need options. I will bet a beer on it!
EVs are the only growth market in the industry. If the Germans really want to go high volume I look forward to seeing an ever-increasing variety of battery electric vehicles on the road!
 
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Great responses. But the Germans want to sell cars and won’t tolerate the low volumes of the EVs alone. Short leash. They will need options. I will bet a beer on it!
Keep in mind all that is being developed by SM can suddenly be shared/used across the entire VWAG families. Thats where the volume come in and Scott Keogh has implied that in several instances interviews