Or is that Scout’s version of Anti-matter blueI thought we have been very outspoken that we don’t want BLACK, white or silver. Seems like Scout isn’t listening very well
Or is that Scout’s version of Anti-matter blueI thought we have been very outspoken that we don’t want BLACK, white or silver. Seems like Scout isn’t listening very well
The held onto the boxy design we've been asking for.I thought we have been very outspoken that we don’t want BLACK, white or silver. Seems like Scout isn’t listening very well
I had to work really hard to get this out of our design team....
Cow eating grass at night.
I own a Tesla Y and an R1T. My biggest gripe is the lack of physical buttons. Frankly it can be dangerous with the amount of concentration required just to adjust the freakn’ air vents. My second biggest gripe is the lack of Apple/Android CarPlay. My wife’s car has it and I love it. Other than that, I do like the Rivian user experience when compared to the Tesla. There are a couple of features I’m waiting on (phone contacts, calendar) but overall I think the Rivian’s layout is simpler and more user friendly. All of this to say that I agree that Scout should keep it relatively simple with the in-car software. Save development $$, use CarPlay, and give me some physically adjustable air vents!If this is all about in-car software it is a big mistake!
Rivian’s user experience is not as bad as some of the other’s but it’s still not great and the owners I hear just keep hoping future updates will improve things.
Meanwhile VW’s in-car entertainment software is apparently built on kubernetes which is a terrible technology stack that basically runs apps inside an app. Then Scout hired as its CTO the guy that oversaw some universally panned in-car tech user experience at Fisker. This gives me very low confidence that Scout will deliver a great tech experience.
All I want is physical buttons for all the cars essential functions and full support for Carplay (and Android Auto) including the new Carplay’s customizable instrument clusters. Supporting the Carplay platform makes it possible for individuals and small teams to create apps that run in the car with very little work. This expands customer choice in apps and services and allows the customer to benefit from future innovation. Locking down the experience to Scouts services and service partners would be a very, very bad idea.
The vehicle’s default built-in entertainment systems should be very, very basic, offering bluetooth connectivity etc. Scout should put zero work into bespoke integration of third party services from Spotify, Apple Music, Google Maps etc. Just leave all that to CarPlay and Android Auto where there are already hundreds of apps. There should probably be one built-in mapping system that would obviously have to be free like it is on phones.
Scout should probably make some CarPlay and Android Auto apps themselves. For example, an AM/FM radio is very useful for emergencies and venturing off grid. There should be a Scout CarPlay App that controls the vehicles radio that sits alongside all the other in-car entertainment apps that the users has installed on their phone.
The in-car software should not be very hard. Just keep it simple and take advantage of all the work Apple, Google and hundreds of developers for their platforms have already done. Rivian are going in the wrong direction when it comes to in-car software, shunning CarPlay entirely and building high cost bespoke systems that have high maintenance, high technical debt and high security burden.
When can we see it??The SUV and pickup truck market segments are the largest in this country. There is room for multiple competitors. I'd also propose that Rivian competes in a different price segment with product that is different in many ways from what we are working on. Yes, we are both making SUVs and pickup trucks (lots of companies are) and they can all travel off-road, but there are many different ways to do that, support that and package it. Plus ours will have a history and heritage that comes through in both the design and the product itself. Rugged. Capable. Multitool. Plus it looks good.
2024When can we see it??
We're going into the 7th month of 2024. I was asking "when".2024
During the next 5 monthsWe're going into the 7th month of 2024. I was asking "when".
Thanks, I was just curious because I live directly across the street where the new plant is being built in SC. Residents here are very unhappy that our state allowed and recruited Scout to this location. They ate supposed to be about the environment, but yet almost 2000 acres of trees, creeks, wetlands wildlife have been destroyed. Do you get me wrong, I don't blame Scout. I blame our government. We were told in Feb or March of this year that a prototype would soon be coming out. Our air quality here is making a lot of us sick.During the next 5 months
I suspect early fall like Sept/October when other manufacturers release their next model year designs. Just what I feel I read between the lines
Thanks for the updated images on the progress of the site. SM has been pretty clear on their motives to support a green initiative, hint its direction to go EV instead of the mainstreams preferences to go ICE.Thanks, I was just curious because I live directly across the street where the new plant is being built in SC. Residents here are very unhappy that our state allowed and recruited Scout to this location. They ate supposed to be about the environment, but yet almost 2000 acres of trees, creeks, wetlands wildlife have been destroyed. Do you get me wrong, I don't blame Scout. I blame our government. We were told in Feb or March of this year that a prototype would soon be coming out. Our air quality here is making a lot of us sick.
As someone involved in construction myself there are give and takes especially on a property this large. Codes and mandates require they follow the laws and environmental guidelines. Certainly can’t speak for SM as I’m not an employee but I’m sure they will be planting portions of replacement trees. Knowing there is relatively adjacent highways, railways and vehicle parts suppliers, choosing this location was an environmental positive. They could have gone remote and taken more land for additional highways, infrastructure, etc… which would have consumed more land. I live in corn country in Lancaster Co, PA and we see the same thing. The important this is following responsible growth and development which in the long run is good for the environment. With new development we never like to see it but it was a proper move by SM to be conscious. Imagine it could have been a national builder throwing up cheap apartments which just creates commuter traffic, transient residents with no long term stake in your town and still a loss of trees. SM will make it nice when done as it is their first impression. That said I understand your frustration as a homeowner.Thanks, I was just curious because I live directly across the street where the new plant is being built in SC. Residents here are very unhappy that our state allowed and recruited Scout to this location. They ate supposed to be about the environment, but yet almost 2000 acres of trees, creeks, wetlands wildlife have been destroyed. Do you get me wrong, I don't blame Scout. I blame our government. We were told in Feb or March of this year that a prototype would soon be coming out. Our air quality here is making a lot of us sick.
If there were existing wetlands before then there have to be wetlands after. Maybe replaced elsewhere, mitigated, if you will, but nobody, nobody can build even a parking lot without a retention area to go with it. Been that way since last century.Thanks, I was just curious because I live directly across the street where the new plant is being built in SC. Residents here are very unhappy that our state allowed and recruited Scout to this location. They ate supposed to be about the environment, but yet almost 2000 acres of trees, creeks, wetlands wildlife have been destroyed. Do you get me wrong, I don't blame Scout. I blame our government. We were told in Feb or March of this year that a prototype would soon be coming out. Our air quality here is making a lot of us sick.
We are located on a major interstate. For SM a new exit is being constructed which meant more land destroyed, peoples property and homes are being affected. We have plenty of tourists already because of where we are located. Straight shot to the coast, to the shipping hubs in Charleston SC, they are putting in a new train rail which will be at the back door of $800k homes. We didn't purchase our retired homes to be in the backyard of an EV plant. How can you consider going green when everything green has been destroyed. Posting a pic just to show how close it is to our homes. Us as life long residents here are really upset. Not all permits wereAs someone involved in construction myself there are give and takes especially on a property this large. Codes and mandates require they follow the laws and environmental guidelines. Certainly can’t speak for SM as I’m not an employee but I’m sure they will be planting portions of replacement trees. Knowing there is relatively adjacent highways, railways and vehicle parts suppliers, choosing this location was an environmental positive. They could have gone remote and taken more land for additional highways, infrastructure, etc… which would have consumed more land. I live in corn country in Lancaster Co, OA and we see the same thing. The important this is following responsible growth and development which in the long run is good for the environment. With new development we never like to see it but it was a proper move by SM to be conscious. Imagine it could have been a national builder throwing up cheap apartments which just creates commuter traffic, transient residents with no long term stake in your town and still a loss of trees. SM will make it nice when done as it is their first impression. That said I understand your frustration as a homeowner.
The other advantage is the upcoming boost to your immediate local economy and growth in new businesses, probably less tax increases in the future as they’ll try to get it from SM. The schools will adjust training to help kids land long term careers and visitors to Scout will create tourist opportunities.
If there were existing wetlands before then there have to be wetlands after. Maybe replaced elsewhere, mitigated, if you will, but nobody, nobody can build even a parking lot without a retention area to go with it. Been that way since last century.
If South Carolina has given Scout Motors a pass on environmental stewardship then SC is in violation of a raft of federal statutes. But won't be the first time SC bucked heads with DC.
Without looking at the land purchase I would also question your 2000 acres. It doesnt even take a fourth of that to build a factory, even one capable of spitting out 150,000 vehicles per year. Toledo Assembly Complex sits on a few hundred acres and includes two actual factories with 84 acres under roof and builds more Jeeps than you can shake a stick at.
Michigan Assembly Plant has 115+ acres of factory floor. Yes you need space outside the buildings but not 2000 acres although that would provide plenty of offroad experiencing.
As far as other South Carolina car plants, BMW Spartanburg, which is largest worldwide BMW factory sits on a mere 1150 acres but spits out 1500 vehicles PER DAY.
Sorry you are unhappy. Progress is progress and ultimately progress brings debate. Best I can say. With every project comes pros and cons. I’m not here to argue with you and/or your neighbors. Most of us are here because of Scouts revival. I’ll bow out gracefully from the conversation as there appears to be no chance of you ever being happy. Ultimately I will just block your posts from my side so I can focus on the positives. When I eventually visit SM to hopefully pick up my new Scout I’ll be sure to stay in an adjacent town and eat meals there as well since you feel it’s already touristy enough in your town of Blythewood. Best of luck on finding balance or happiness in your life with this project.We are located on a major interstate. For SM a new exit is being constructed which meant more land destroyed, peoples property and homes are being affected. We have plenty of tourists already because of where we are located. Straight shot to the coast, to the shipping hubs in Charleston SC, they are putting in a new train rail which will be at the back door of $800k homes. We didn't purchase our retired homes to be in the backyard of an EV plant. How can you consider going green when everything green has been destroyed. Posting a pic just to show how close it is to our homes. Us as life long residents here are really upset. Not all permits were
You believe that this hasn’t been covered already by the appropriate people at SM and local, state, and federal governments, and that this forum is the place to fix perceived environmental issues, at this late date? That’s an incredible amount of hubris.I wonder what SM's plans are as to mitigating any issues. It's good to have a candid local viewpoint (and photos!) instead of just a one-sided delivery. I wonder if there's a way of routing the railway so that it's not against the back of the houses...