I agree. Smack dab in the middle.Perfect spot would be front center of ‘grill’ to access from either side.
I’ve got electric panel in basement at front right corner of my garage so selfishly I’d like it on the front passenger quarter panel
Should Scout adopt the NACS (Tesla) charging system
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Yes, front center. But offset a bit for the winch.Perfect spot would be front center of ‘grill’ to access from either side.
I’ve got electric panel in basement at front right corner of my garage so selfishly I’d like it on the front passenger quarter panel
For most cars, I think the charge port location has a lot to do with whether the car is front or rear wheel drive in it's most base configuration. They want to place it as close to the high voltage electronics box as possible, which is typically next to the motor.
Yes, that makes the most sense, even not considering your garage! CSS chargers have a long cable, so no preference there, but tesla superchargers have a short one and the charger is positioned at the front right (assuming you pull in forwards instead of backwards). So front-towards-the-right will probably result in the easiest charging with the widest variety of chargers. Of course, that's the worst spot for my setup, butI’ll go with slightly offset. I’ll vote to push to passenger side
I despise he idea of relying on Tesla and risk of a future licensing issue when Musk decides to change things up.
Said it before, reluctantly-maybe big government needs to set a standard and tie it to the EV tax credit with the manufacturers so we can establish a U.S. standardized system. Curious low much longer Tesla holds the trademark/copyright on the adapter style.
Said it before, reluctantly-maybe big government needs to set a standard and tie it to the EV tax credit with the manufacturers so we can establish a U.S. standardized system. Curious low much longer Tesla holds the trademark/copyright on the adapter style.
Any reason both front and back couldn't be an option for convenience? Little extra wire and an additional port creating what I would think would be a minimal price increase. I bring it up (mind you I'm not an EV owner....yet) because I find myself backing my truck in most stalls.
I am an EV owner and I completely agree there should be a port front and back. Until the charging infrastructure looks like gas stations where you pull in parallel to the pump, front and back ports would great. Nearly every public charger I’ve seen is at the head of a parking space.
Well SAE was involved in the CCS standard and it finally moved in a direction that nearly everyone globally adopted it except Tesla. Tesla then came up with a marketing slogan and called theirs NACS and said they would offer it as a "standard".
As programmers like to point out, the nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from. It will be interesting to see how this plays out.
With both GM AND Ford now both going NACS it changes things significantly. From what I understand the cars will still "speak" CCS but the form factor of the connector will be NACS. If this is indeed the case then I would suggest as of now that the industry move to standardize around the NACS connector. It's a much more elegant and robust design and an objectively better connector. My only complaints about it were that it was proprietary both in design and communication protocol. That seems to have changed though with Tesla saying it has "open sourced" the design. Taking them at their word that means you shouldn't have to licence anything from Tesla and can just use the form factor if you want. It also now seems that Tesla will adapting their network to use the standard CCS communication protocols as well so this is a big deal. The Supercharger network will need to "speak" CCS because it's the only why they'll be able to support existing Ford and GM vehicles that will gain access to the network starting next year.
If that is indeed the solution being adopted by Ford and GM - a CCS-ified NACS - (as opposed to the NACS speaking the proprietary Tesla protocols) then I think it's a good solution for the industry and I would hope that Scout adopts it as well. Having two competing standards has hurt the industry and causes confusion (three if you still count Chademo). It looks like the heavy players have now thrown their hats in on NACS so it's only prudent for everyone else to follow suit. I don't care if we gain access to the actual SuperCharger network so whether or not, I don't think Scout needs to have an agreement in place with Tesla although I wouldn't complain if they did. I mostly care that the vehicles will have a standardized and common connector used by majority of the industry and now that both GM, Ford and several charging providers are adopting NACS I think that will be the standard going forward and CCS's days are numbered - something I never thought would happen.
To be clear. I'm saying this as a longtime non-Tesla EV owner who until last week would have been pushing CCS as the industry standard. But things have changed significantly and given the new information it would be foolish to continue backing the CCS form factor.
Scout probably has the benefit of timing here, I would expect that by the time they are getting ready for production, CCS will be mostly dead and NACS will be prevalent, with an adapter to be able to be used for CCS vehicles. There may not be a decision to make at that point.
Another variation I'm familiar with is "Standards are great. Everyone should have their own."
Jamie, To be fair, Tesla backed up their declaration of a North American standard by having a nationwide network of reliable and easy to locate/use chargers in convenient locations. Now, both Ford and GM have recognized the dominance and desirability (from the customer perspective) and have adopted NACS. This feels like when VHS defeated Beta or for the younger set, when blu-ray beat HD-DVD. I think NACS is unstoppable now.
I don’t want to sound like a Tesla fanboy because I don’t want any of their vehicles but their charging network is second to none.
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I totally agree. In the end it gives customers access to a wider network. It still throws a wrench in standardized plugs worldwide, but that will just sort itself out in the end.
Does it really throw a wrench in standardized plugs worldwide? Europe and Asia are already on different standards, this really just ends up consolidating North America to a single instead of 2 or 3 (depending on if we want to include Chademo).
I have a Lightning and live in Montana, charging infrastructure other than Tesla is few and far between, the Ford/Tesla agreement is huge for me personally, and should make EV adoption in my area a bit more palatable for many who are on the fence.
Most global manufacturers were all headed in a CCS direction. It isn't an insurmountable issue in the end.
For anything the US was headed towards the CCS1 standard which isn’t compatible with CCS2 in EU…..so just like metric and freedom units the US has to be unique
I've never heard it called this and I'm laughing so hard.
Rivian now on the NACS bandwagon.
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