Scout and Audi share platform?

[J Alynn]

Jamie
Thank you for spending your time today and this evening to provide us with accurate info and spare us from this thread becoming 20 pages of us venting and speculating. Perhaps as we stumble on these articles moving forward we should just post it and ask you to clarify before we start making assumptions-myself included.
Transparency is refreshing for a business venture this size and that alone continues to keep me excited for the next round of new information. Thanks again

 

[LastDayScout]

I am not a rabble rouser and certainly did not mean to incite anger or make anyone upset. I’m sure there will be many more speculative articles written prior to launch and this is the perfect place to discuss them. We had a lively discussion and Jamie shot down one false speculation immediately. I think that’s how this whole thing should work. In fact I look at it as great for Scout and the Scout community to have an opportunity like this. Scout can gauge reactions of its most interested and /or loyal customers and we can hear directly from Scout on topics they are at liberty to answer.

 

[J Alynn]

I am not a rabble rouser and certainly did not mean to incite anger or make anyone upset. I’m sure there will be many more speculative articles written prior to launch and this is the perfect place to discuss them. We had a lively discussion and Jamie shot down one false speculation immediately. I think that’s how this whole thing should work. In fact I look at it as great for Scout and the Scout community to have an opportunity like this. Scout can gauge reactions of its most interested and /or loyal customers and we can hear directly from Scout on topics they are at liberty to answer.

Well said

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

No worries. I didn’t think anyone was stirring the pot. I reread the whole topic and see where things got confusing/ambiguous. Sometimes the better answer is the shorter one.

We always want everyone to feel free to ask about these things. Sometimes we may have to give PR type answers when things are still in the air or haven’t been announced yet. But we will do our best to be transparent.

 

[IdahoJOAT]

Audi isn't building Scouts and we are building them here in the U.S.

And Jamie, man, I wasn't trying to like, be an a-hole. I promise.

I appreciate everything you and Chris are doing, obviously. This tab and forum are open all day for me. I love it.

And the above quote is all I really needed to read man. Mahalo nui loa.

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

And Jamie, man, I wasn't trying to like, be an a-hole. I promise.

I appreciate everything you and Chris are doing, obviously. This tab and forum are open all day for me. I love it.

And the above quote is all I really needed to read man. Mahalo nui loa.

Ha, no worries, my skin is way thicker than that. I was just trying to figure out where the train came off the tracks.

 

[LastDayScout]

Feel free to move this if we are indeed getting an “articles” section.

Volkswagen execs considering electrified pickup truck for US market

VW's American execs plan to bring a proposal for an electrified pickup truck to the company's board in Germany in the third quarter of the year.

www.motorauthority.com

 

[J Alynn]

Feel free to move this if we are indeed getting an “articles” section.

Volkswagen execs considering electrified pickup truck for US market

VW's American execs plan to bring a proposal for an electrified pickup truck to the company's board in Germany in the third quarter of the year.

www.motorauthority.com

I’ll avoid starting/continuing a thread of What-ifs until @Jamie@ScoutMotors chimes in but seems odd to create direct competition between two VWG companies especially if both are made in US. I guess if it is visually different enough maybe but who wants another vanilla box when you could have Scout character with probably the majority of shared bin components?

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

I’ll avoid starting/continuing a thread of What-ifs until @Jamie@ScoutMotors chimes in but seems odd to create direct competition between two VWG companies especially if both are made in US. I guess if it is visually different enough maybe but who wants another vanilla box when you could have Scout character with probably the majority of shared bin components?

Nothing official has been announced, but the article quotes VW execs:

Should a pickup truck be approved it would be developed in America for America. Di Si noted that cars built in America for America are more successful as shown by the Atlas crossover SUV, which was designed and developed in America, and is built in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

VW's potential pickup would leverage current platforms in the automaker's portfolio, and would be electrified. Expect it to be a unibody vehicle, likely based on the Atlas' platform.

The Atlas, which was introduced for the 2018 model year and refreshed for 2021, will debut an updated look for 2024 at the 2023 Chicago Auto Show. A next-generation Atlas could be years away.

Volkswagen's North American Chief Sales and Marketing Officer Andrew Savvas told Motor Authority the next-generation Atlas could be electrified. Di Si noted that it could have a hybrid or plug-in hybrid powertrain, but a plug-in hybrid model makes more of an impact. "It's not strategically wise to go into multiple directions for hybrids," Di Si said.

Any future plug-in hybrid pickup truck or Atlas would not only need to be built in America, but also have its battery pack's minerals and cells be sourced domestically to qualify for the recent Inflation Reduction Act incentives. If VW does that, however, its battery provider would qualify for up to $45 per kilowatt-hour of battery manufacturing incentives under a different part of the IRA. That could make an Atlas-based PHEV pickup considerably cheaper than any competitor without a plug.

This is a pickup truck concept they showed back in 2018 based on the Atlas/Tiguan/Jetta/Golf platform:



The exec's quoted above are talking about a unibody truck based on the Atlas. That said, the current Atlas platform is the MQB transverse platform and any BEV would be a next-generation MEB platform if it's going to be unibody. None of this is based on the new Scout platform. And, in addition it is all talking in hypotheticals. In the 20 years plus that I've been dealing with Volkswagen here in the States, the topic of a pickup truck has come up at least a dozen times over the years.

Would a VW be a mid-size pickup truck somewhere between Atlas and Rivian size?

Would a VW be a more compact Ranger-size pickup truck?

Would a VW be a rugged pickup or a more traditional setup?

Who knows right now. They haven't announced anything at this point.


As I mentioned above, there is always the *possibility* that the Scout-specific component architecture could be repurposed for another VWAG brand - the company has clearly done that in the past. However, nothing specific or official has been said about that possibility. Personally, I'm not worried about it at all. Scout will stand on its own clear branding, identity, and heritage.

Hope that helps!

 

[LastDayScout]

I’ll avoid starting/continuing a thread of What-ifs until @Jamie@ScoutMotors chimes in but seems odd to create direct competition between two VWG companies especially if both are made in US. I guess if it is visually different enough maybe but who wants another vanilla box when you could have Scout character with probably the majority of shared bin components?

Yep. Just posted as information and hoping to hear what the staff have to add. Not stirring the pot.

 

[J Alynn]

Yep. Just posted as information and hoping to hear what the staff have to add. Not stirring the pot.

All things considered I’ve always liked this concept pick up. I remember seeing it and thinking it looked unique and design was appealing. Seems diesel-gate had happened a few years before that if my memory serves me so at the time I became anti-VW. Hate’n on big corporate greed and that nonsense . Then bought an Audi TT in 2019

 

[LastDayScout]

All things considered I’ve always liked this concept pick up. I remember seeing it and thinking it looked unique and design was appealing. Seems diesel-gate had happened a few years before that if my memory serves me so at the time I became anti-VW. Hate’n on big corporate greed and that nonsense . Then bought an Audi TT in 2019

 

[J Alynn]

Is GM planning to take on the Bronco with an electric 4x4?

General Motors (GM) may have a trick up its sleeve to take on Ford’s iconic Bronco, and it’s not a...

electrek.co

Another new post today about GM’s possible electric competition. Just here for reading purposes

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

There were reports in the last few weeks that GM took some journalists to their design studios and one of the concepts was an off-road EV. Nothing official though.

I like Electrek’s quote:

Volkswagen is expected to reveal Scout-brand EVs, but that still leaves room for an electric 4×4 as interest in off-road capabilities continues building.

Looks like I need to reach out to Peter and let him know we plan to do electric 4x4s.

 

[J Alynn]

A Trained Designer Imagines What The International Scout Could Have Become - The Autopian

You people like things that aren’t real, right? Of course you do! Especially imaginary cars, right? We got some Cybertruck fans out there, don’t we? I kid, I kid! You guys are all right. As you know we at The Autopian like to provide you with all the fictional automotive content you can stand...

www.theautopian.com

Stumbled on this design concept someone posted in 2022. Not sure if admins or other folks on here have seen this before. There are a couple ideas that were pretty interesting. As for the general design I’ll be nice and hold my feedback to myself. It definitely screamed 80’s

 

[Harris005]

A Trained Designer Imagines What The International Scout Could Have Become - The Autopian

You people like things that aren’t real, right? Of course you do! Especially imaginary cars, right? We got some Cybertruck fans out there, don’t we? I kid, I kid! You guys are all right. As you know we at The Autopian like to provide you with all the fictional automotive content you can stand...

www.theautopian.com

Stumbled on this design concept someone posted in 2022. Not sure if admins or other folks on here have seen this before. There are a couple ideas that were pretty interesting. As for the general design I’ll be nice and hold my feedback to myself. It definitely screamed 80’s

Reminds me of the Isuzu Amigo.

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

A Trained Designer Imagines What The International Scout Could Have Become - The Autopian

You people like things that aren’t real, right? Of course you do! Especially imaginary cars, right? We got some Cybertruck fans out there, don’t we? I kid, I kid! You guys are all right. As you know we at The Autopian like to provide you with all the fictional automotive content you can stand...

www.theautopian.com

Stumbled on this design concept someone posted in 2022. Not sure if admins or other folks on here have seen this before. There are a couple ideas that were pretty interesting. As for the general design I’ll be nice and hold my feedback to myself. It definitely screamed 80’s

Jason is a good guy. Definitely riffing on the SS1 with evolution.

 

[BuzzLightYear]

Interesting article from today:

Volkswagen Mulls Scout, Audi EV Assembly Plant in the US Thanks to IRA Incentives

Volkswagen Group is considering building at least one EV production facility in the U.S. for Scout and Audi models to benefit from the Inflation Reduction Act

www.autoevolution.com

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

Interesting article from today:

Volkswagen Mulls Scout, Audi EV Assembly Plant in the US Thanks to IRA Incentives

Volkswagen Group is considering building at least one EV production facility in the U.S. for Scout and Audi models to benefit from the Inflation Reduction Act

www.autoevolution.com

Yeah that's making the rounds today. Nothing official to announce on our end yet. Stay tuned.

 

[J Alynn]

Interesting article from today:

Volkswagen Mulls Scout, Audi EV Assembly Plant in the US Thanks to IRA Incentives

Volkswagen Group is considering building at least one EV production facility in the U.S. for Scout and Audi models to benefit from the Inflation Reduction Act

www.autoevolution.com

Thanks for posting. Always glad to hear the media’s take. Time for Jamie to start a new thread folder for published media articles.

Rumor mill is starting Jamie.

I heard from a friend whose second cousin twice removed has a 5,000 acre farm in east Bumble$&;@$ that Scout is building a plant with Pontiac AND Saturn (BOTH) are being revived and they are starting up a new EV line of station wagons and shag vans and Saturn wants to fund the facility for all three….
Just kidding-but glad more news is out saying it will be in the U.S.