Will the non Harvester model have a considerable larger battery and more the 350 mile range?
Non-Harvester = Larger battery with an expected 350 miles of range.Will the non Harvester model have a considerable larger battery and more the 350 mile range?
Wow that is a whole different story. If this ends up being the case I am a no go for that Harvester. This would force me to use the extender more then I want to. It's not really that much of a difference from some Hybrids. Hopefully that 350 will grow to 400+ for the non harvester.Non-Harvester = Larger battery with an expected 350 miles of range.
Harvester model = Smaller battery to accommodate for added engine that will have an expected 150 miles on the battery, but when Harvester engine is applied it boost the expected range to 500 miles.
Wow that is a whole different story. If this ends up being the case I am a no go for that Harvester. This would force me to use the extender more then I want to. It's not really that much of a difference from some Hybrids. Hopefully that 350 will grow to 400+ for the non harvester.
I go on two camping trips a month in Utah, AZ, ID, MT and OR pulling a 18 foot 3,500 pound stand up off-road trailer. So yes with my trailer I need at least 350 miles. I was looking at the Chevy at 495 miles and the Rivian at 420 miles. I reserved the Scout Terra because I absolutely love the design and the Harvester at 350 ev plus extender going to 500 is awesome. But 200 or less on ev is a deal killer.You drive more than 150 mile daily?
150 miles of EV range is almost as much as pure EVs, and VERY different that typical Plug in Hybrids that usually have 50 miles or less of EV range, usually much less.
Harris how sure are you on the Harvester only having 150 mile ev range???Non-Harvester = Larger battery with an expected 350 miles of range.
Harvester model = Smaller battery to accommodate for added engine that will have an expected 150 miles on the battery, but when Harvester engine is applied it boost the expected range to 500 miles.
He’s very sure. It was discussed with us at the reveal event.Harris how sure are you on the Harvester only having 150 mile ev range???
So while towing my 3,500 pound trailer it will switch to gas at 70-90 miles. That's is a Hybrid and not going to cut it for me. I do not think at least half of the people who reserved the Harvester know this information. Hoping they kick the non Harvester to 400 and I am in for that model.Either vehicle on EV only will be 350 miles.
Either vehicle with Harvester will be 150 miles EV, at some point the engine kicks on to turn generator to provide battery charge which extends the vehicle an additional 350 + miles.
It’s not going to switch to gas in that a gas engine is going to power the drive train: if I’m understanding the difference between a range extender and a hybrid correctly, it’s going to switch to gas charging the battery that powers the electric engine. The gas engine never interacts with the drive train, only the battery. I don’t know what difference this makes for you in the equation.So while towing my 3,500 pound trailer it will switch to gas at 70-90 miles. That's is a Hybrid and not going to cut it for me. I do not think at least half of the people who reserved the Harvester know this information. Hoping they kick the non Harvester to 400 and I am in for that model.
Part of a conversation I heard at reveal is they hope by ‘26 to have battery tech to go beyond 350 but as of now, that’s the comfort level they are comfortable speaking too.So while towing my 3,500 pound trailer it will switch to gas at 70-90 miles. That's is a Hybrid and not going to cut it for me. I do not think at least half of the people who reserved the Harvester know this information. Hoping they kick the non Harvester to 400 and I am in for that model.
I go on two camping trips a month in Utah, AZ, ID, MT and OR pulling a 18 foot 3,500 pound stand up off-road trailer. So yes with my trailer I need at least 350 miles. I was looking at the Chevy at 495 miles and the Rivian at 420 miles. I reserved the Scout Terra because I absolutely love the design and the Harvester at 350 ev plus extender going to 500 is awesome. But 200 or less on ev is a deal killer.
Uh. Those ranges are not even close to what you would get towing. General rule of thumb towing with EV is cut range expectations in half. And that’s only if you have fairly aerodynamic trailer. Could be worse if you are towing a brick. This somewhat matches ICE, but can be worse if the EV itself is really aerodynamic like a model 3 or Y. If the EV itself is a brick like the hummer for example then the percentage loss can be less. For aerodynamic EV the non towing number is great because of less aerodynamic losses. So adding a brick to that is a huge percent change. The scouts don’t look like they be significantly different from rivians. So look up towing range on rivians to get an idea of what you might expect the percent loss to be.I go on two camping trips a month in Utah, AZ, ID, MT and OR pulling a 18 foot 3,500 pound stand up off-road trailer. So yes with my trailer I need at least 350 miles. I was looking at the Chevy at 495 miles and the Rivian at 420 miles. I reserved the Scout Terra because I absolutely love the design and the Harvester at 350 ev plus extender going to 500 is awesome. But 200 or less on ev is a deal killer.
Do you think that we will have some control over when/if the Harvester will turn on?Either vehicle on EV only will be 350 miles.
Either vehicle with Harvester will be 150 miles EV, at some point the engine kicks on to turn generator to provide battery charge which extends the vehicle an additional 350 + miles.
Do you think that we will have some control over when/if the Harvester will turn on?
Something that could tow a 18-foot 3500lb load 200 miles at freeway speeds on 100% EV is a $250K vehicle with current technology. Better batteries are coming, but in the near future, you will have to adjust your expectations.I go on two camping trips a month in Utah, AZ, ID, MT and OR pulling a 18 foot 3,500 pound stand up off-road trailer. So yes with my trailer I need at least 350 miles. I was looking at the Chevy at 495 miles and the Rivian at 420 miles. I reserved the Scout Terra because I absolutely love the design and the Harvester at 350 ev plus extender going to 500 is awesome. But 200 or less on ev is a deal killer.
Something that could tow a 18-foot 3500lb load 200 miles at freeway speeds on 100% EV is a $250K vehicle with current technology. Better batteries are coming, but in the near future, you will have to adjust your expectations.
So while towing my 3,500 pound trailer it will switch to gas at 70-90 miles. That's is a Hybrid and not going to cut it for me. I do not think at least half of the people who reserved the Harvester know this information. Hoping they kick the non Harvester to 400 and I am in for that model.
Yes twice a month on five +day trips so more like 50 % of the time. Your right though it's not for me I changed my order. Hoping that battery will grow on the EV Terra. I just misunderstood what the PHEV does. I wonder if others have as well?So using gas range extender twice/month is too much?
That kind of use case is the main point of PHEVs/EREVs.
You get to do your normal daily routine on Battery Electric, then occasionally (like twice/month) your burn gas for longer trips.
I mean if you only want to electricity all the time, even on longer trips, then a PHEV/EREV is not what you are looking for.