Questions about the Harvester

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Will the non Harvester model have a considerable larger battery and more the 350 mile range?
Non-Harvester = Larger battery with an expected 350 miles of range.

Harvester model = Smaller battery to accommodate for added engine that will have an expected 150 miles on the battery, but when Harvester engine is applied it boost the expected range to 500 miles.
 
Non-Harvester = Larger battery with an expected 350 miles of range.

Harvester model = Smaller battery to accommodate for added engine that will have an expected 150 miles on the battery, but when Harvester engine is applied it boost the expected range to 500 miles.
Wow that is a whole different story. If this ends up being the case I am a no go for that Harvester. This would force me to use the extender more then I want to. It's not really that much of a difference from some Hybrids. Hopefully that 350 will grow to 400+ for the non harvester.
 
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Wow that is a whole different story. If this ends up being the case I am a no go for that Harvester. This would force me to use the extender more then I want to. It's not really that much of a difference from some Hybrids. Hopefully that 350 will grow to 400+ for the non harvester.

You drive more than 150 mile daily?

150 miles of EV range is almost as much as pure EVs, and VERY different that typical Plug in Hybrids that usually have 50 miles or less of EV range, usually much less.
 
You drive more than 150 mile daily?

150 miles of EV range is almost as much as pure EVs, and VERY different that typical Plug in Hybrids that usually have 50 miles or less of EV range, usually much less.
I go on two camping trips a month in Utah, AZ, ID, MT and OR pulling a 18 foot 3,500 pound stand up off-road trailer. So yes with my trailer I need at least 350 miles. I was looking at the Chevy at 495 miles and the Rivian at 420 miles. I reserved the Scout Terra because I absolutely love the design and the Harvester at 350 ev plus extender going to 500 is awesome. But 200 or less on ev is a deal killer.
 
Non-Harvester = Larger battery with an expected 350 miles of range.

Harvester model = Smaller battery to accommodate for added engine that will have an expected 150 miles on the battery, but when Harvester engine is applied it boost the expected range to 500 miles.
Harris how sure are you on the Harvester only having 150 mile ev range???
 
Either vehicle on EV only will be 350 miles.
Either vehicle with Harvester will be 150 miles EV, at some point the engine kicks on to turn generator to provide battery charge which extends the vehicle an additional 350 + miles.
 
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Either vehicle on EV only will be 350 miles.
Either vehicle with Harvester will be 150 miles EV, at some point the engine kicks on to turn generator to provide battery charge which extends the vehicle an additional 350 + miles.
So while towing my 3,500 pound trailer it will switch to gas at 70-90 miles. That's is a Hybrid and not going to cut it for me. I do not think at least half of the people who reserved the Harvester know this information. Hoping they kick the non Harvester to 400 and I am in for that model.
 
So while towing my 3,500 pound trailer it will switch to gas at 70-90 miles. That's is a Hybrid and not going to cut it for me. I do not think at least half of the people who reserved the Harvester know this information. Hoping they kick the non Harvester to 400 and I am in for that model.
It’s not going to switch to gas in that a gas engine is going to power the drive train: if I’m understanding the difference between a range extender and a hybrid correctly, it’s going to switch to gas charging the battery that powers the electric engine. The gas engine never interacts with the drive train, only the battery. I don’t know what difference this makes for you in the equation.
 
I assume it does burn less gas then an engine that powers the drive train. I wonder how much gas is consumed on the 500 mile range? So 150 ev 350 gas does not sound like a plug in to me.
 
So while towing my 3,500 pound trailer it will switch to gas at 70-90 miles. That's is a Hybrid and not going to cut it for me. I do not think at least half of the people who reserved the Harvester know this information. Hoping they kick the non Harvester to 400 and I am in for that model.
Part of a conversation I heard at reveal is they hope by ‘26 to have battery tech to go beyond 350 but as of now, that’s the comfort level they are comfortable speaking too.
 
I go on two camping trips a month in Utah, AZ, ID, MT and OR pulling a 18 foot 3,500 pound stand up off-road trailer. So yes with my trailer I need at least 350 miles. I was looking at the Chevy at 495 miles and the Rivian at 420 miles. I reserved the Scout Terra because I absolutely love the design and the Harvester at 350 ev plus extender going to 500 is awesome. But 200 or less on ev is a deal killer.

So using gas range extender twice/month is too much?

That kind of use case is the main point of PHEVs/EREVs.

You get to do your normal daily routine on Battery Electric, then occasionally (like twice/month) your burn gas for longer trips.

I mean if you only want to electricity all the time, even on longer trips, then a PHEV/EREV is not what you are looking for.
 
I go on two camping trips a month in Utah, AZ, ID, MT and OR pulling a 18 foot 3,500 pound stand up off-road trailer. So yes with my trailer I need at least 350 miles. I was looking at the Chevy at 495 miles and the Rivian at 420 miles. I reserved the Scout Terra because I absolutely love the design and the Harvester at 350 ev plus extender going to 500 is awesome. But 200 or less on ev is a deal killer.
Uh. Those ranges are not even close to what you would get towing. General rule of thumb towing with EV is cut range expectations in half. And that’s only if you have fairly aerodynamic trailer. Could be worse if you are towing a brick. This somewhat matches ICE, but can be worse if the EV itself is really aerodynamic like a model 3 or Y. If the EV itself is a brick like the hummer for example then the percentage loss can be less. For aerodynamic EV the non towing number is great because of less aerodynamic losses. So adding a brick to that is a huge percent change. The scouts don’t look like they be significantly different from rivians. So look up towing range on rivians to get an idea of what you might expect the percent loss to be.
 
You will likely get your 400 miles EV only range and hopefully more, when their solid state battery can be optioned. I wouldn't expect this earlier than mid-2027 or later though. So maybe 220 miles with your trailer.
 
Either vehicle on EV only will be 350 miles.
Either vehicle with Harvester will be 150 miles EV, at some point the engine kicks on to turn generator to provide battery charge which extends the vehicle an additional 350 + miles.
Do you think that we will have some control over when/if the Harvester will turn on?
 
Do you think that we will have some control over when/if the Harvester will turn on?

Definitely. It would be a waste of the hardware if it didn't have modes to give you control over it.

Probable something like:

  • Automatic: Where it stays mostly in EV, but can decide to turn on at some high speed/load combinations.
  • EV: Where it stays in EV mode as long as possible (until a low state of charge).
  • Charge Sustaining: Where it runs the generator early, to preserve the battery, but not increase stored power.
  • Charging: This mode will charge the batteries from the generator, possible even while stationary/parked.
  • Generator Mode: Power your house or other loads.
 
I go on two camping trips a month in Utah, AZ, ID, MT and OR pulling a 18 foot 3,500 pound stand up off-road trailer. So yes with my trailer I need at least 350 miles. I was looking at the Chevy at 495 miles and the Rivian at 420 miles. I reserved the Scout Terra because I absolutely love the design and the Harvester at 350 ev plus extender going to 500 is awesome. But 200 or less on ev is a deal killer.
Something that could tow a 18-foot 3500lb load 200 miles at freeway speeds on 100% EV is a $250K vehicle with current technology. Better batteries are coming, but in the near future, you will have to adjust your expectations.
 
Something that could tow a 18-foot 3500lb load 200 miles at freeway speeds on 100% EV is a $250K vehicle with current technology. Better batteries are coming, but in the near future, you will have to adjust your expectations.

This was my first thought.

A battery only version isn’t going to tow anywhere near 350 miles at speeds you’d see in the western US. So ironically, the harvester option is exactly the option intended to solve this problem.

So while towing my 3,500 pound trailer it will switch to gas at 70-90 miles. That's is a Hybrid and not going to cut it for me. I do not think at least half of the people who reserved the Harvester know this information. Hoping they kick the non Harvester to 400 and I am in for that model.

You are correct, the harvester IS a hybrid. Specifically an extended range electric vehicle.

I watched the reveal event, but didn’t know anything about the scout vehicle before that, and didn’t join the forums until after I reserved. And I know I can’t speak for everyone, but I thought it was pretty obvious it was 150 miles EV + 350 gas for that option (it’s the option I have reserved).

My use case is different than yours, and I am coming from a traditional PHeV (33 mile EV range). But personally I’m stoked for 150 EV miles. I’d love more of course, but with that, I’m looking at seeing a huge increase in my EV miles.

In my last 7700 miles with my PHeV I’ve averaged 246 mpg. I’m looking forward to really only using gas on road trips tbh.

But also, like you, if the EV model had more range, I may also be into that, depending how the charging infrastructure looks in the American west (WA/OR/ID/UT mostly for me).
 
So using gas range extender twice/month is too much?

That kind of use case is the main point of PHEVs/EREVs.

You get to do your normal daily routine on Battery Electric, then occasionally (like twice/month) your burn gas for longer trips.

I mean if you only want to electricity all the time, even on longer trips, then a PHEV/EREV is not what you are looking for.
Yes twice a month on five +day trips so more like 50 % of the time. Your right though it's not for me I changed my order. Hoping that battery will grow on the EV Terra. I just misunderstood what the PHEV does. I wonder if others have as well?