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Funny how its being looked over by DOT. Which it should be no reason to be spending $5B. It should be $2-3B. Its stupid how the government spends money. But then the DOGE haters that started the EV infrastructure fund will be the first ones to complain about national Debt without doing anything about it.
 
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Funny how its being looked over by DOT. Which it should be no reason to be spending $5B. It should be $2-3B. Its Re*rated how the government spends money. But then the side that started the EV infrastructure fund will be the first ones to complain about national Debt without doing anything about it. (Not a political statement)

And I broke my rant streak. @J Alynn
Funny how people think $1B is anything but a drop in the bucket when it comes to government expenditures.

Also funny how implicating one side and then stating “not a political statement” doesn’t actually make it “not a political statement”

Also also funny how just leaving a letter out of a word so it doesn’t get flagged doesn’t actually make it less offensive to people who have loved ones in that community.
 
Funny how people think $1B is anything but a drop in the bucket when it comes to government expenditures.

Also funny how implicating one side and then stating “not a political statement” doesn’t actually make it “not a political statement”

Also also funny how just leaving a letter out of a word so it doesn’t get flagged doesn’t actually make it less offensive to people who have loved ones in that community.
Funny how people get so enraged by someone opinion in today’s world.

And I cleaned it up for the child, who’s afraid of sentence enhancers.
 
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They are, a sizable portion of my battery focused coworkers are entertaining offers from American OEMs to play catchup. Unfortunately it just takes millions to hire enough engineers and then billions to make tooling over a short run to play catchup up. I do not envy the supply chain managers/vocals who have to source the materials for tooling.
 
They are, a sizable portion of my battery focused coworkers are entertaining offers from American OEMs to play catchup. Unfortunately it just takes millions to hire enough engineers and then billions to make tooling over a short run to play catchup up. I do not envy the supply chain managers/vocals who have to source the materials for tooling.
Glad to hear they are actively working on it. Why don’t they use a bit of AI like China does?

I feel like were gonna catch up, especially since the USA has Tesla, Rivian. And well soon Scout will which I'm guessing will start there own R&D lab once they are turning profits from the vehicles.

@Jamie@ScoutMotors can possibly confirm.
 
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Our R&D facility is our Innovation Center in Novi, Michigan where our engineering, product and design teams work.

And let's keep this topic from slipping off the rails everyone. Thanks!

Jamie
Do you think the US will catch up with China in the next couple of years Jamie?

I feel like US Automakers are just starting to get more invested into EVs. After seeing how Tesla and Rivian are taking off. Regardless of the federal investments. Aren’t there a few Battery Factories and R&D centers being built? Or at least what i saw. I think we are gonna see a-lot more breakthroughs in the next year or so. Like what china has. It has been said a few times by Car News companies that the US was the leading EV country and then China came into the industry. But it would only take about a Year or So for us to catch back up.
 
Glad to hear they are actively working on it. Why don’t they use a bit of AI like China does?

I feel like were gonna catch up, especially since the USA has Tesla, Rivian. And well soon Scout will which I'm guessing will start there own R&D lab once they are turning profits from the vehicles.

@Jamie@ScoutMotors can possibly confirm.
We can and do! A lot of large American Manufactures (think 100k+ employees like my own company) have pretty agile and well funded AI teams. The real problem is that right now (at least for processes that are certified, have robust specifications, and large guide-rails...like cars and planes for example) AI is a nebulous catch-all that means nothing regarding infrastructure and engineering. At work if I hear someone say "Using AI we will solve this", I basically know that the plan is stupid, will fail, and inevitably costs us hundreds of thousands.

AI is still really helpful for data analysis work, but right now honestly we just need to build batteries and work on the manufacturing processes/engineering. Data comes after we build the test articles.

The real advantage that China has in the EV race is that they essentially have a 10 year head start on full scale engineering and the fact that their labor costs are SOOO low that manufacturing is comparatively cheap. So they can poor EXTRA money into engineering. Plus (and this is the dirty secret) there are NOT at a lot of American's getting advanced degrees in Engineering/STEM anymore.
 
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The real advantage that China has in the EV race is that they essentially have a 10 year head start on full scale engineering and the fact that their labor costs are SOOO low that manufacturing is comparatively cheap. So they can poor EXTRA money into engineering. Plus (and this is the dirty secret) there are NOT at a lot of American's getting advanced degrees in Engineering/STEM anymore.
That last part is Just Sad. But maybe it needs to be done like a trade. I understand the schooling and stuff but Trades have had it right along.

And for China labor, thats another sad thing. But we won’t touch on it.
 
That last part is Just Sad. But maybe it needs to be done like a trade. I understand the schooling and stuff but Trades have had it right along.

And for China labor, thats another sad thing. But we won’t touch on it.
At the moment the best thing that can be done on our (America's) end for your base level tech's and Manufacturing is to continue paying them well and making sure that they STAY with the company for a while. If you don't pay me more then Wendy's AND I have to crawl around with a loud ass rivet gun AND I have negligible retirement it does not create a loyal workforce dedicated to a good product.

Regarding the lack of higher education in STEM (think Master's +) that its another sinkhole that will be quite interesting to see implode in a couple decades. But it does give me a lot of good vibes considering the amount of engineering/SM/Production Planning that I see Scout pulling from the Universities in South Carolina. This is how you build a smart educated work force. Hire a bunch of young engineers, give them a good salary and benefits, and then once the product is place you have a lot of engineers that are happy and knowledgeable about how this works. Plus, in theory once you have a reliable production line and cash flow. You can start to pay for your young engineers to go back to school and increase the knowledge base of the company. My own employer gives pays for all of our education if we want to go back to school, which is a frankly unheard of benefit.

Plus in a real way....There are very few easy problems left that we can handle very quickly, the only challenges that companies have left are the hard stuff....which is hard. Ford had the Focus Electric in 2011! They have been jerking around with EV's and batteriers for a decade.....now the hard part of creating a product that is actually
 
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