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[Horsefarmer]

Scout Motors - design philosophy

Forging The Future: Our Philosophy of Exterior Design – Scout Motors Stories

blog.scoutmotors.com

 

[J Alynn]

Just some more EV reading. Only a screen shot but doesn’t shock me

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

Just some more EV reading. Only a screen shot but doesn’t shock me

Yep. I won't go back to ICE. Even selling my motorcycle because the Mustang is more fun to drive and doesn't require as many stops on a road trip.

 

[LastDayScout]

Yep. I won't go back to ICE. Even selling my motorcycle because the Mustang is more fun to drive and doesn't require as many stops on a road trip.

I’m a gear head, and as such, I have a couple fun vehicles that are ICE. I look at them as pure nostalgia. I like mechanical things. For me it’s like how people collect vinyl records and listen to turn tables. I’m sure those same folks utilize digital music more often on the whole. But, to your point, I will not go back to ICE as a daily driver/go to vehicle.

 

[SpaceEVDriver]

I’m a gear head, and as such, I have a couple fun vehicles that are ICE. I look at them as pure nostalgia. I like mechanical things. For me it’s like how people collect vinyl records and listen to turn tables. I’m sure those same folks utilize digital music more often on the whole. But, to your point, I will not go back to ICE as a daily driver/go to vehicle.

I'm an absolute gear head. But I experience very little nostalgia, so I'm always looking for the next thing to try. EVs will keep me busy for a good long while.

Unfortunately I still have a couple of tools that I can't afford to switch to electric, like my tractor.
I need to change the fluids in it, but have been putting it off because I dislike the stench and mess of petroleum products so much.

 

[Chuckles]

Agreement reached: Volkswagen AG positions itself competitively for the future​

Agreement reached: Volkswagen AG positions itself competitively for the future

Following intensive negotiations between Volkswagen AG, IG Metall and the Works Council, a joint agreement entitled ‘Zukunft Volkswagen’ [Future Volkswagen ] has been concluded. The company and the Works Council are thereby jointly positioning Volkswagen AG for sustainable success. To this end...

www.volkswagen-newsroom.com

Summary (from Car and Driver): Volkswagen has reached an agreement with European union workers that will prevent factory closures and mass strikes. The deal includes "socially responsible" job cuts of over 35,000 German factory workers by 2030. Factory production will also be reduced by 734,000 units, according to VW. The company said in a press release that the deal will help it save 15 billion euros per year in the "medium term."

 

[J Alynn]

EV Batteries May Last Longer Than Expected Because We’ve Been Testing Them Wrong: Study

University researchers say battery lifespan is almost 40 percent longer than originally predicted.

www.thedrive.com

 

[THil08]

EV Batteries May Last Longer Than Expected Because We’ve Been Testing Them Wrong: Study

University researchers say battery lifespan is almost 40 percent longer than originally predicted.

www.thedrive.com

I’ve been doing a lot of self guided research on batteries and packs. And with the improvements that are coming the estimated range numbers shown by Scout might be higher. A lot of research organizations have been showing that LFP cells are really strong with their life span. And for testing packs I’m actually not surprised that we’ve been testing them wrong.

-Semi Solid State Batteries are expected to make their debut in 2025.

-PowerCo expected to begin making fully Solid State Batteries in St. Thomas by 2026/2027.

I think it’s a very high chance of seeing Power Co Unified Cell Battery technology in Scouts. (not saying we will see their SSB due to price concerns and it still being new and all) But kWh prices for cells do continue to creep down and it’s said that by 2026 the price will be below $69/kWh so it’s looking good for the markets both EV and Gas.

Since Manufacturers making both EV and Gas cars want to see an even amount of both selling which I could somewhat understand especially in the EU where manufacturers need to sell an even amount or they get fined over emissions.

That’s my take on batteries, If anyone wants to expand please do. This was all personal research and development.

 

[eddiet1212]

Meet King Kong: This new electric pickup launched in China for under $14,000​

Meet King Kong: This new electric pickup launched in China for under $14,000

An all-electric pickup for under $14,000? That’s right. Geely’s Radar Auto launched its new “King Kong” EV pickup in China...

electrek.co

 

[Chuckles]

Report: all electric cars in the US to be retrofitted with V8s​

Unused batteries will be repurposed into massive monster truck ramps

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/satire/report-all-electric-cars-us-be-retrofitted-v8s

Made me laugh.

 

[THil08]

Report: all electric cars in the US to be retrofitted with V8s​

Unused batteries will be repurposed into massive monster truck ramps

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/satire/report-all-electric-cars-us-be-retrofitted-v8s

Made me laugh.

Lol. Thats hilarious there’s alot of work that would have to be done to fit a v8 in an area where a Electric motor goes from wiring, chassis mounts, ect.

Now have i heard a-lot about an Electric v8 yes. It’s actually pretty cool to see but i cant see it happening since a-lot of moving pieces go into making one.

 

[J Alynn]

It’s the season and interesting read on survival in a stranded EV versus ICE

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a42642119/ev-winter-stranded-tips/?utm_campaign=trueanthemFBCDphoto&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1uDDoQOzAb4OmkjxlPVxy9x2c8k5FRPS4w7jIqxIdcFNB3t2lT3mYDPp4_aem_RSzbXaS1y8hQT5ZFyhAcFg

 

[THil08]

It’s the season and interesting read on survival in a stranded EV versus ICE

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a42642119/ev-winter-stranded-tips/?utm_campaign=trueanthemFBCDphoto&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1uDDoQOzAb4OmkjxlPVxy9x2c8k5FRPS4w7jIqxIdcFNB3t2lT3mYDPp4_aem_RSzbXaS1y8hQT5ZFyhAcFg

With the harvester do we think a built in battery heater would be put into the batteries coolant system? But also it’s an off-roader so I feel that Scout has a trick up their sleeve for battery heating in cold weather since it’s an 8day a week vehicle.

 

[Chuckles]

With the harvester do we think a built in battery heater would be put into the batteries coolant system? But also it’s an off-roader so I feel that Scout has a trick up their sleeve for battery heating in cold weather since it’s an 8day a week vehicle.

Pretty much all EV's have a battery management system to keep the battery at an optimum temperature in hot or cold weather. A parked EV will draw power to keep the battery in the "sweet spot". Smart EV's will allow you to precondition the battery to optimize charging time or max performance.

 

[THil08]

Pretty much all EV's have a battery management system to keep the battery at an optimum temperature in hot or cold weather. A parked EV will draw power to keep the battery in the "sweet spot". Smart EV's will allow you to precondition the battery to optimize charging time or max performance.

Obviously thats a standard in EVs battery heating. But the extra heat from the harvester could be used for something also maybe a heat exchanger to get more range like how F1 cars do. Which i think it has since those massive cans that were showed in the harvesters reveal video of where the harvesters would be.

Something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_heat_recovery_system

 

[J Alynn]

With the harvester do we think a built in battery heater would be put into the batteries coolant system? But also it’s an off-roader so I feel that Scout has a trick up their sleeve for battery heating in cold weather since it’s an 8day a week vehicle.

Time will tell, nothing I’ve heard but I like the thinking

 

[J Alynn]

Obviously thats a standard in EVs battery heating. But the extra heat from the harvester could be used for something also maybe a heat exchanger to get more range like how F1 cars do. Which i think it has since those massive cans that were showed in the harvesters reveal video of where the harvesters would be.

Something like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhaust_heat_recovery_system

I’d be curious to see another comparison -adding a Harvester/EVER in the mix and seeing what survival/heat time would be. I’m guessing in that test scenario the pure EV Scout would heat longer than the harvester version as that generator may run through gas “faster” than just the pure EV but its tech beyond my understanding so guess I’ll wait until Jamie feeds us more.

 

[THil08]

I’d be curious to see another comparison -adding a Harvester/EVER in the mix and seeing what survival/heat time would be. I’m guessing in that test scenario the pure EV Scout would heat longer than the harvester version as that generator may run through gas “faster” than just the pure EV but its tech beyond my understanding so guess I’ll wait until Jamie feeds us more.

Im only coming up with these guesses because most things we see in Automobiles today stems from Highly Advanced Technology in Race cars.

It would be funny if they are gonna use a heat exchange exhaust system and not a alternator/generator to create power from the Harvester. Especially since ewe all think its gonna be a Alternator/generator.

 

[J Alynn]

Im only coming up with these guesses because most things we see in Automobiles today stems from Highly Advanced Technology in Race cars.

It would be funny if they are gonna use a heat exchange exhaust system and not an alternator/generator to create power from the Harvester. Especially since ewe all think its gonna be an Alternator/generator.

There were also discussions at some point of using hydronic heat for the vehicle. Imagine using a liquid cooling loop that wrapped the battery pack and the generator/engine then flowed the tubing in the floor of the trucks to keep feet warm through radiant heating-tubing loops back outside to recoil further before running past batteries and starting the loop all over. Would love to see exhaust heat utilized but I feel that would be complicated. If generator was in front with longer exhaust system I wonder if exhaust flow would be strong enough to put “spinners” inside to gain a bit more energy . Lot of work for little return but anything cheap to harvest more energy is a win or recover the heat to benefit the passengers in winter with less use of fans. Lots of firsts could be in the works

 

[THil08]

There were also discussions at some point of using hydronic heat for the vehicle. Imagine using a liquid cooling loop that wrapped the battery pack and the generator/engine then flowed the tubing in the floor of the trucks to keep feet warm through radiant heating-tubing loops back outside to recoil further before running past batteries and starting the loop all over. Would love to see exhaust heat utilized but I feel that would be complicated. If generator was in front with longer exhaust system I wonder if exhaust flow would be strong enough to put “spinners” inside to gain a bit more energy . Lot of work for little return but anything cheap to harvest more energy is a win or recover the heat to benefit the passengers in winter with less use of fans. Lots of firsts could be in the works

I love how creative people get here its amazing.

The best part of Scout Motors is this community forum. Since we all have a engineering side in our brains lol. And the fact that the employees are so active here it makes it be that they see what we as a community are doing to help the brand and them with making a true 8day a week vehicles.