The Travelall did not have the external spare.The Traveler wheelbase has surpassed the last Travelall! (120.4" vs 119")
The Travelall did not have the external spare.The Traveler wheelbase has surpassed the last Travelall! (120.4" vs 119")
But still the new Traveler will be long.The Travelall did not have the external spare.
Just crush the mini cooper next to you and park on top . Its big-but again, doesn’t feel as big-not in a bad way-anywayMy concern is with parking it. From what I looked up, standard parking spaces are 96-108” wide. That leaves no room to open the door and get out!
To be fair, I wouldn’t say mid sized thinking small. The overall size is similar to a Tahoe but the cuts and shape make it feel less. That said, it was never parked in a parking space so hard to say when you are in the open looking over 100 acres of grounds and trees.I don’t think the width value is correct.
I measured the height and width of the vehicle drawing precisely with calipers and found the width is 1.127 times the height. If the height measurement is correct at 76.3 the width is actually about 86.0 in (with mirrors because they do not project).
Hopefully, we’ll get some clarification.
Attendees at the event didn’t seem to think the vehicles were absurdly huge, just “midsized”.
Good point. Since there is some perspective the front view drawing should make the roof appear relatively low vs the width because the front of the vehicle is closer and the roof a bit further back. That means my earlier measurements and calculation of an 86.0 in width (based on the height to width ratio and assuming the height measurement is correct) was too large. I now think the width is less than 86.0.The indicated dimensions are way too big for me. After the novelty wears off a bit, it'll be a PITA to live with day-to-day.
If this thing really is the size of a hummer, and it appears to be, I'm out. Not good for family. Not easy to live with. Not a good neighbor. Not a good Scout.
It is hard to tell exactly what is being measured, though. The drawings use a perspective projection, which makes the parts that are closer to the viewer larger (wider and taller) than the parts that are further away. If they had used an orthographic projection, you would have been able to measure bits of the drawing (like tire hight) in order to double-check the sizes. The perspective projection looks a lot better, though.
I'm with ya on these tiny electric trucks. We need bigger options and it looks like the Terra is one of the first to do it. If you look at the Terra's dimensions its almost identical to a F-150 Crew Cab with the 5.5ft bed, actually Terra has 3" longer wheelbaseThe Cybertruck is a mid sized truck. The long bed Tacoma is longer than it and a lot taller. And only 2 inches shorter in width.
I hope these dimensions are correct because I'm sick of these tiny electric trucks. This is America for goodness sake!
Yes they are. 98% of buyer market wants family hauling and storage. Those of us here are generally Scout fans/enthusiasts but very small fraction will travel the Rubicon in a new $65K vehicle. As battery tech improves and needs less space I’m sure a smaller model will arrive. But having seen it in person it is AMAZING!Sounds like we need some actual clarification. Those stats are on par with a Chevy Tahoe!
FYI, the tires shown on the concepts are BFG AT KO3 35x12.50R20The indicated dimensions are way too big for me. After the novelty wears off a bit, it'll be a PITA to live with day-to-day.
If this thing really is the size of a hummer, and it appears to be, I'm out. Not good for family. Not easy to live with. Not a good neighbor. Not a good Scout.
It is hard to tell exactly what is being measured, though. The drawings use a perspective projection, which makes the parts that are closer to the viewer larger (wider and taller) than the parts that are further away. If they had used an orthographic projection, you would have been able to measure bits of the drawing (like tire hight) in order to double-check the sizes. The perspective projection looks a lot better, though.
If it is, cool. But I’m sure most of the length comes from the Full size spare tire. And if it’s that wide, we should be getting DOT regulation lighting too!Is it really this huge? For reference, a Bronco Raptor is 191" long, 77.8" tall and 85.7" wide and that is a wide f'n truck. A RAPTOR!View attachment 3090
Ah ok, thank you for clarifying! I’m use to the mid sized SUV world coming from a 4th Gen 4runner, Scout II and a family member having the new 4 door Bronco. The size is not a deal breaker by any means and I have a reservation in place. I thought it would be more similarly sized to the Rivian R2. I can’t wait to see more details as it gets closer to production!Yes they are. 98% of buyer market wants family hauling and storage. Those of us here are generally Scout fans/enthusiasts but very small fraction will travel the Rubicon in a new $65K vehicle. As battery tech improves and needs less space I’m sure a smaller model will arrive. But having seen it in person it is AMAZING!