Actual pricing

[mattbrew]

I hope when it time to place our orders Scout will reference actual prices and not “price after estimated savings” like Tesla does on their website. It’s ok to list savings below the price. Hopefully the tax credits will still apply.

 

[CarTechGeek]

Before rebates they list: "Retail prices starting under $60,000."

I would take that to be near $60K, like $58K to $59.9K.

 

[Logan]

I hope when it time to place our orders Scout will reference actual prices and not “price after estimated savings” like Tesla does on their website. It’s ok to list savings below the price. Hopefully the tax credits will still apply.

100% agree.

You could/can still get to that on the Tesla website. But its not intuitive at first.

Before rebates they list: "Retail prices starting under $60,000."

I would take that to be near $60K, like $58K to $59.9K.

I agree.

I just think the OP is saying "make it default to the actual price" when you're configuring it, rather than "pre-applying" the incentives that you may/may not be able to take advantage of like Tesla has historically done.

 

[J Alynn]

Considering the incoming administration will end all tax credits there probably doesn’t even need to be considered at this time. Not a political argument-just what news is reporting

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

The Inflation Reduction Act actually made it more difficult to qualify for credits as the vehicle has to be produced in America and the content of battery minerals has to be sourced from North America. Let's see how things play out first.

 

[OIBScout]

It is EXTREMELY unlikely there will be EV incentives by the time Scouts roll off the line.

 

[Ike]

Considering the incoming administration will end all tax credits there probably doesn’t even need to be considered at this time. Not a political argument-just what news is reporting

Yeah it does seem very likely that they will be going away. Hopefully they can still come in at the expected price.

 

[LastDayScout]

I did read somewhere on this forum that Scout plans to make their price independent of incentives.

 

[dumbdork]

Given how much batteries cost, it'll be interesting to see where they end up in the next couple of years (both tech and pricing). This might be a big influencing factor by the time Scout is ready to come to market.

Electric vehicle battery prices are expected to fall almost 50% by 2026

www.goldmansachs.com

 

[CarTechGeek]

I did read somewhere on this forum that Scout plans to make their price independent of incentives.

What is that supposed to mean?

 

[LastDayScout]

What is that supposed to mean?

I will try to find it. The gist of it is that they plan to hit their targeted price points with or without the $7500 incentive.

 

[Scoutsie]

What is that supposed to mean?

I’m not @LastDayScout but maybe he means this?

Post in thread 'leasing'
https://scoutmotors.community.forum/threads/leasing.1273/post-15309

We will just have to see what happens. We penciled our business case around pricing that doesn't depend on tax incentives.

 

[CarTechGeek]

I’m not @LastDayScout but maybe he means this?

Post in thread 'leasing'
https://scoutmotors.community.forum/threads/leasing.1273/post-15309

That doesn't really imply what the other guy thinks it does.

All I think it means, is that they consider "under" $60K is a reasonable starting price, even if incentives disappear and don't lower it.

If you look at what else is available (Like Rivian), at $60K Scout seem to have a very competitive offering.

IMO, there is ZERO chance that they drop prices to $50K-$53K if incentives disappear.

 

[dumbdork]

What is that supposed to mean?

If you go to Tesla's website, https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview for example, you will see the pricing depending on the Cash/Lease/Finance tab.

Did you notice the 'Include est incentives..' or 'Include est gas savings' checkbox below? Unclick that. Notice the price jump? Yea, thats your *actual* cost you pay. Or maybe it isnt. You need to click on the Edit Terms/Savings link below to actually see real numbers.

I believe this is what OP means by 'reference actual prices'.

 

[Scoutsie]

That doesn't really imply what the other guy thinks it does.

All I think it means, is that they consider "under" $60K is a reasonable starting price, even if incentives disappear and don't lower it.

If you look at what else is available (Like Rivian), at $60K Scout seem to have a very competitive offering.

IMO, there is ZERO chance that they drop prices to $50K-$53K if incentives disappear.

Okay.

 

[Logan]

If you go to Tesla's website, https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview for example, you will see the pricing depending on the Cash/Lease/Finance tab.

Did you notice the 'Include est incentives..' or 'Include est gas savings' checkbox below? Unclick that. Notice the price jump? Yea, thats your *actual* cost you pay. Or maybe it isnt. You need to click on the Edit Terms/Savings link below to actually see real numbers.

I believe this is what OP means by 'reference actual prices'.

This is exactly what I thought they were talking about.

Not if they can hit a specific price point or not. But how it’s displayed.

So the request was to be transparent/up front with the actual cost, not hiding it like Tesla does.

 

[LastDayScout]

I’m not @LastDayScout but maybe he means this?

Post in thread 'leasing'
https://scoutmotors.community.forum/threads/leasing.1273/post-15309

Yep, that's the one. Thanks for the assist.

 

[J Alynn]

If the typical battery packs are costing -say $15K and pricing can drop by 50% as the Gold/Sachs article reads right there is the $7500 tax incentive that will most likely be gone. That said G/S is correct in their thinking as the article reads where EV will be nearly even to ICE

 

[CarTechGeek]

If the typical battery packs are costing -say $15K and pricing can drop by 50% as the Gold/Sachs article reads right there is the $7500 tax incentive that will most likely be gone. That said G/S is correct in their thinking as the article reads where EV will be nearly even to ICE

That article is out to lunch.

Packs the size of the ones for Scout will be a lot more than $15K, and they aren't dropping fast enough to matter before debut. Most pack price drops are based on LFP packs that Scout won't be using to hit 350 miles of range.

 

[dumbdork]

That article is out to lunch.

Packs the size of the ones for Scout will be a lot more than $15K, and they aren't dropping fast enough to matter before debut. Most pack price drops are based on LFP packs that Scout won't be using to hit 350 miles of range.

I hope its not. I read https://aukehoekstra.substack.com/p/batteries-how-cheap-can-they-get 6mo ago and it makes some interesting arguments. It's not the same, but I've been watching RV batteries for a while. I bought 2x Weize 12V 100Ah LiFePO4 batteries in Nov 2022 for $320/ea and they were the cheapest ones around. Exact same one I bought is now $200. Thats 37% in 2yrs. And there's some that are $150 now.

In general, battery tech is moving forward. It's tech. This feels like the CPU wars of the late 90s-early 2000s. Moore's law type stuff. We're hitting an inflection point (EVs yes, but energy storage in general) where its all really accelerating. And when it accelerates, prices fall.