Spare Tire on the inside. Doesn't have to be a big honkin off-road tire, could be a skinny space saver or a collapsible spare.
Spare Tire on the inside. Doesn't have to be a big honkin off-road tire, could be a skinny space saver or a collapsible spare.
Agreed and we're both wanting the same thing. I would prefer a full size spare above everything else, however I would accept a full height but not full width (what I called a "space saver") as a compromise because sometimes modern packaging doesn't allow the space for a full size spare.I totally agree that this should be one of the options for the Traveler.
Personally, I don't quite want a "space saver"/tiny doughnut spare, as those are just so limiting. But I'd be totally open to a smaller (diameter, width, or both) option.
Copy Pasta from another thread. The "not quite full size" option is listed in here.
Here are the options I'd love, personally.
- External spare tire carrier (confirmed, optional)
- Pros:
- Great for full size spares, particularly in larger sizes.
- Saves interior space
- Removeable
- Cons:
- Extends Overall Length massively (~18in), making fitment in small garages difficult
- Makes accessing the rear liftgate storage area more cumbersome
- Makes using certain rear accessories difficult (hitch mounted bike racks for instance)
- Rear Liftgate Storage Area (not mentioned, but possible?)
- Pros:
- More Aerodynamic than external carrier
- Shorter vehicle length fits in more garages/parking areas.
- Doesn't interfere with hitch mounted rear accessories.
- Cons:
- Uses a lot of rear liftgate storage space
- You may have to unpack the storage space to remove/access the spare tire
- Under floor storage area (confirmed for Terra, I think mentioned for Traveler?)
- Pros:
- Efficient use of interior/external space
- More aerodynamic than external carrier
- Saves internal cargo floor space.
- Cons:
- Likely only available on the BEV version?
- Likely limited in the size of the spare that will fit (diameter, width, or both).
- Access to the spare may be more difficult/involve unloading any cargo in the storage area (if its an underfloor spare accessed from the top/inside the storage area.
With the compressor potentially being built in, I do think that having a can of fix-a-flat could be a viable alternative, if someone isn't going off the beaten path/has AAA/doesn't want to deal with changing a flat, or simply wants more storage space when driving locally.
But I do want the option to have a spare. And I would be willing to use a smaller than full size spare if needed (not an emergency doughnut, but like a 33x10.5x18 or something could be a decent spare for a 35x12.50R18 if needed, or a smaller ~31" for the spare on the base vehicle with 33's), but still want the option to carry a full size spare if desired.
This is why I suggested a 1972 datsun type vehicle (can not recall if it was 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton). The body is MINIMALIST. Single bench seat; Had a heater, no ac, though I would go with heat pump; no real options with it, though LOTS of addons.Problem is the minimal costs for materials/labor+ battery cost prevents an American company from hitting a $25K price point. Average new car prices in U.S. are right around $50K.
Audi is already looking to use the platform and battery so that ties into your comment but that won’t happen until after Scouts launch so they can benefit first with sales. SM has also noted the factory has capacity to produce for other companies if they go that route, at least based on what we’ve been told.
Knowing people want 700 miles per charge on recent threads I can’t see building a starter vehicle that’s stripped down to hit $25-30K and have any kind of worthwhile range. Would be nice for the small population willing to except a 100 miles range but I just don’t see it being a solid option and a low take rate would take the teams away from focusing on the core money-making vehicles. Just my opinion though
As long as we’re talking Augmented Reality, i’d like something that will replace the scenery on boring drives. E.g. maybe show a lunar landscape when driving down I 10. Or maybe flying through space effect like in Star Trek. I always wanted my own shuttle craft!Massaging seats and an Hud if it has augmented reality better)
Ooo, oo, I got this.As long as we’re talking Augmented Reality, i’d like something that will replace the scenery on boring drives. E.g. maybe show a lunar landscape when driving down I 10. Or maybe flying through space effect like in Star Trek. I always wanted my own shuttle craft!
I like the optimism but a basic Nissan Sentra is $24K. No chance of getting a stripped scout for under $40K. IMO it just doesn’t make sense for Scout. Wish they could be cheaperThis is why I suggested a 1972 datsun type vehicle (can not recall if it was 1/2 ton or 3/4 ton). The body is MINIMALIST. Single bench seat; Had a heater, no ac, though I would go with heat pump; no real options with it, though LOTS of addons.
And 150 MPC, with a body that is SIMPLE AND INEXPENSIVE should provide for a 25K EV. Farmers, college and high schoolers will eat that up ALIVE.
X2 on the adjustable air suspension! Have it on a 2010 Touareg which goes places no non-air one can go. It took a factory order to get the option but was well worth the money. As the stock clearance on the Cayenne/Touareg platform trades off-roading chops for on-road handling.I have a Defender that I lucked into getting it during Covid so was stuck with a spec I didn't necessarily need but the one thing in it that I wouldn't have specced but definitely would now is the fabric roof. The only down side is it's either open or closed (so you don't have the option of a skylight) but it opens back past the back seats and I much prefer the bigger opening. Since it's not a convertible it is not noisy at all like a Bronco or Wrangler.
The 360 camera, undercar camera and wade monitoring are very useful - although the wade monitoring is a little silly as it is useful as you are already in the spot it's reading.....
The dash set up with the self and pockets is great and it looks like Scout went that route. I missed it in the Broncos and Wranglers I've driven.
Mine has extra cladding on the wheel arches etc (most are delivered without). I like the extra protection and rugged look so would like to see it as an option on the Scout.
The adjustable ride height with the air suspension is awesome but the non air suspension is good on them too and I've never had an issue on the coil sprung Broncos so it's definitely more of a nice to have.
The hose out interior is nice. I thought I'd hate it but the fell can be easily changed by switching the rubber or fabric mats that came with it.
A few things I'd like that the Defender doesn't have.
Dash cams integrated into the cars cameras. It's an option from LR to add dashcams but it doesn't make sense since there are already so many on it.
I have the third row seat (in the 110) and it would be nice to have some underfloor storage around it. Even in the ones without it the under floor storage is tiny but there looks like there is a lot of wasted space there.
LR offer a built in air compressor in the trunk. I've debated adding it as you still have to hook a hose up to it but it would be nice to have some sort of on the fly air adjustment like some hummer H1s had (although I'm sure its cost prohibitive).
The Defender handles much better than something like that should. I was surprised at how well Broncos have driven also so would hope the Scout is closer to them than a Wrangler which is a little "wandery" although they are much better than older ones.
Impressive! You have realized my dream!Ooo, oo, I got this.
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Turns out, Microsoft Paint is way more capable than it used to be... while simultaneously being very, very "Microsoft Paint-y" .
(Sorry, as soon as you said it, I thought "like going into hyperspace!", and had to try it out ).
Welcome to the forum!We put down a reservation fee for my husband. I would really like to see the charge port in the same place as a Tesla. You guys are using the NACS, as I learned, but as a Tesla owner, we have problems with non-Tesla EVs with ports on the "wrong" side of the car taking up two of our chargers because of the port. If you want to be the MOST compatible with our network, then put the charge port in the same place. Sure, they're putting in new chargers with longer cords, but the older 150 kWh and 250 kWh chargers have short cords. Please adapt to the Tesla network...I can't believe so many carmakers decided to go their own way, then expect to charge on our network, totally throwing off our route planner because of the non-Teslas taking up two spots. Not a problem when you've got 68 chargers in Temple, Texas, but when you've only got four in Bozeman, Montana, that's half of the available four.
a Biggie for most truck users i would say would be a bed in bed like in honda ridgeline with a two way opening tailgate . i wouldnt mind paying a little extra for that. it really gives us all a place to lock our stuff for the long term and be able to access it easily with the two way opening tailgate.There are some comfort creatures that I have grown to love in current cars.
Adaptable headlights, rain sensing wipers, heated and ventilated seats.
But one feature I love is simply being able to walk away from the car and it automatically locking.
What feature would you like to see?
A Biggie for most truck users i would say would be a bed in bed like in honda ridgeline with a two way opening tailgate . i wouldnt mind paying a little extra for that. it really gives us all a place to lock tools etc for the long term and be able to access it easily with the two way opening tailgate.
New Honda Ridgeline 2 way tailgate.
I think we all can agree that $50k is the new $20k.I like the optimism but a basic Nissan Sentra is $24K. No chance of getting a stripped scout for under $40K. IMO it just doesn’t make sense for Scout. Wish they could be cheaper