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Nice, we have something in common as I also own a Mach E (2023 GT Performance Edition) and will be glad to assist with any questions for folks new to the EV world or those that are still on the fence about getting one (like this nice Scout). A little about my background and why I have a Scout Harvester on reserve but may change to the full EV version if the gas extender version isn't what I hope it is. So, my first experience in the EV world was reserving the then brand new 2011 Chevy Volt. Like my current Bronco, I have a ton of experience ordering/reserving cars early before they come out. I do a ton of research before I reserve a new model car (basically part of my car hobby) and really being an early adaptor of any new/unique new model, especially one with new tech. That was what the Chevy Volt was back in 2010. GM marketed the Volt horribly and should have really pushed the fact it was two cars in one. By that I mean it was just as happy running 100% of the time on gas as it was on battery power. Even though the first-generation Volt only had a ~40-mile battery range to go with its ~280-mile gas range, we quickly realized that 90% of the time we only used the battery (by charging at home at night) as that 40-mile range usually took care of our daily drives to work, school, stores, etc. Then, we would use the gas generator for occasional vacation/long trips. Because we realized just how little most would need public chargers, it was a no brainer to eventually replace it with our current Mustang Mach E which has nearly 7 times that range. With our current EV, we may go a couple of months before we even need to worry about public charging on the road, which now that Ford has given us a Tesla adaptor, is really no problem including as part of your long-distance trip.
Now about the Scout... All the hoopla about the Gas Range Extender gave me some hope that it will operate similar to our Volt in that it would have the option to run off either gas or battery charge and not have to rely on both (like the Prius). If it does, I can see this thing being a real game changer to remove range anxiety and win over the next batch of folks not use to EVs. I wouldn't mind being part of that movement again, besides, having that option should also help resale value. However, most folks on these forums do not think it will operate like this; instead, the Harvester will simply delay how quickly the battery is depleted to give you that 500-mile range. If that's the case, then I will change to the full EV version since having over 300 mile range is good for 99% of my daily driving and I don't want the Harvester to cut into both the range and performance of what the full EV version promises (in other words, the Harvester option will cost more while also reducing EV acceleration and range). So, as a current EV owner (and main takeaway here), I am very comfortable going full EV again in the Scout, especially since it will have similar performance to my current EV but with offroad ability that "could" match my Bronco Badlands??? It's going to be very hard to select which one of those two to replace!
Why did I pick the Mach E? Well as I alluded to above, I was one of those 2020 Bronco reservation holders that finally received it a year later. This was my first Ford and I couldn't help but notice the sharp looking Mach E that had recently came out as well. As a Volt owner, I was very familiar with Tesla since for a few years about the only EV you could get was the Volt, Tesla Roadster/Model S, and Leaf. I have a fun story of getting to test drive a Roadster in DC on the same day I picked up my brand-new Volt as the Tesla sales folks wanted to also test out the Volt, but that is a story in itself. But I also have a few things I don't like about Tesla, namely the interior controls and lackluster exterior design. Thus, I was very happy that Ford, GM, BMW, and many others are finally coming out with some stiff competition to Tesla. Syllish cars that actually have controls behind the steering wheel is a plus. Plus, the GT Performance Edition of my Mach E closely matches the performance of the affordable Tesla's. I have nearly 38K miles on our Mach E in 2 years and not once have we had any service done to it, so it has been a very reliable and cheap car to drive for sure. Don't let any naysayers talk you out of EVs as most of what you hear is easily countered!
Now about the Scout... All the hoopla about the Gas Range Extender gave me some hope that it will operate similar to our Volt in that it would have the option to run off either gas or battery charge and not have to rely on both (like the Prius). If it does, I can see this thing being a real game changer to remove range anxiety and win over the next batch of folks not use to EVs. I wouldn't mind being part of that movement again, besides, having that option should also help resale value. However, most folks on these forums do not think it will operate like this; instead, the Harvester will simply delay how quickly the battery is depleted to give you that 500-mile range. If that's the case, then I will change to the full EV version since having over 300 mile range is good for 99% of my daily driving and I don't want the Harvester to cut into both the range and performance of what the full EV version promises (in other words, the Harvester option will cost more while also reducing EV acceleration and range). So, as a current EV owner (and main takeaway here), I am very comfortable going full EV again in the Scout, especially since it will have similar performance to my current EV but with offroad ability that "could" match my Bronco Badlands??? It's going to be very hard to select which one of those two to replace!
Why did I pick the Mach E? Well as I alluded to above, I was one of those 2020 Bronco reservation holders that finally received it a year later. This was my first Ford and I couldn't help but notice the sharp looking Mach E that had recently came out as well. As a Volt owner, I was very familiar with Tesla since for a few years about the only EV you could get was the Volt, Tesla Roadster/Model S, and Leaf. I have a fun story of getting to test drive a Roadster in DC on the same day I picked up my brand-new Volt as the Tesla sales folks wanted to also test out the Volt, but that is a story in itself. But I also have a few things I don't like about Tesla, namely the interior controls and lackluster exterior design. Thus, I was very happy that Ford, GM, BMW, and many others are finally coming out with some stiff competition to Tesla. Syllish cars that actually have controls behind the steering wheel is a plus. Plus, the GT Performance Edition of my Mach E closely matches the performance of the affordable Tesla's. I have nearly 38K miles on our Mach E in 2 years and not once have we had any service done to it, so it has been a very reliable and cheap car to drive for sure. Don't let any naysayers talk you out of EVs as most of what you hear is easily countered!
Just wanted to say thanks to all of you for taking time to answer questions and provide some perspective on EV ownership. That's what makes a community great. 
I too took the Harvester off my order. I have a 3,500 pound stand up ( just shy of 9 feet tall) off-road trailer. At 70 mph in Utah on highway then too off-road camp locations how many miles do you think the full EV Terra will go? Do you think the scout suv will have more or less range and towing capabilities then the Terra? Tia
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My take is that a lot of the towing is just physics. Doesnt really have much to do with the drivetrain type. My Tundra range/mpg drops right about half when pulling my GD 2400BH (30' long, 11.5' tall, ~6500lbs).
So I'd look at what is your normal range vs your range when towing? That'd be a good starting guesstimate. For me, I'd expect the Terra to get 250mi, and then work it downward from there based on road conditions (wind and elevation gains mostly).
As for towing, the Terra truck is said to have 10k capacity and 2k payload. The Traveler SUV is 7k towing capacity but not sure about payload. With RVs, you typically run out of payload before towing capacity.
(how I envision my Terra looking in front of my GD, despite my atrocious photoshop skills
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Any answer to those questions will be speculation.
IMO, the best existing EV model for the Terra is the Lightning and the best existing EV model for the Traveller is the R1S. I don't think I would expect very much difference in range capabilities between the two Scout models. They're going to be close to the same wind resistance profile and probably about the same weight.
The 9-foot trailer stands a few feet above the vehicle roof, so it will be a sail and the tow vehicle will have to fight drag quite a bit.
I think you'll be able to count on 130 miles on your first leg and 115 miles on each subsequent leg. I think if you slow to 65, you'll be able to get closer to 180-200 miles on your first leg and 150-180 miles on each subsequent leg. Once you're off the highway, I think you can count on something more like 230-280 miles, assuming you've charged right before leaving the highway (pro-rate it for whatever distance there is between the last DCFC and the exit off the highway).
Here's my thought process:
I'm speculating that the fully-electric Scouts will have a 140-150 kWh (usable) battery. This is based on a 2.4 miles/kWh EPA estimated efficiency for the Lightning in the EPA tests and the 131 kWh (usable) battery size of the Lightning giving the lightning a 320 EPA rated range.
At 70 mph on the freeway, I'd expect around 1.1 to 1.3 miles/kWh, depending on the wind/cold/etc. Assuming you start your first leg at 100% with a warm battery and you recharge at 20% (so use 80% of the 150 kWh = 120 kWh. Assuming 1.1 miles/kWh, that's about 130 miles on the freeway before your first stop. Afterward, you'll likely only charge to 85 or 90%, and you'll still likely want to stop around 20%, so the subsequent legs will be using about 70% of the battery, so you'll get about 115 miles before your second (and third and...) recharge. You can push things a bit, and after becoming comfortable with the vehicle and your routes, you will likely do so.
Once you're off pavement, you'll get far better efficiency, if you can maintain a constant speed. But if you're constantly changing speeds, you'll see the weight of the trailer become important. I would count on between 2.0 and 2.2 miles/kWh for the slower roads and 1.9-2.0 miles/kWh if you're changing speed a lot.
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My experience going from the Flagstaff, AZ area to Kodachrome State Park in Utah, which included combined highway and offroad driving, but not towing. Our combined total efficiency for 155 miles of highway (65 mph for most of it) and 45 miles of dirt road was 2.9 miles/kWh. If you divide that in half, you'll get an approximation of what it would have cost to tow (I would multiply by 70% instead of 50% but my efficiency numbers seem to surprise my fellow Lightning drivers, so I must be doing something differently).
At the park, we recharged to 100% on an RV 50A plug. We made it home (200 miles) using only 79 kWh of energy for a 2.5 miles/kWh efficiency, mostly because we were climbing back up in elevation (overall).
If we were towing, we'd probably only get 1.45 to 2.0 miles/kWh on the way to the campsite and 1.25 to 1.75 miles/kWh on the way home.
Description of the trip will go in the next comment.
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From May 2024:
We finally took the Lightning camping! It was fantastic!
I first installed a couple of 100 W solar panels on the rack so we could recharge our 1.4 kWh battery that would power the ICECO 60L fridge/freezer, which fits neatly under the tonneau cover.
Packed up everything we thought we would need and a few more things as well.
We headed north from the Flagstaff area toward southern Utah. We stopped in Page for a restroom break and to grab a couple of snacks. Then we continued on to Cottonwood Canyon Road, off of Highway 89 and then took the back roads about 45 miles to Kodachrome Basin State Park.
On the way up, our elevation started at about 6650 feet, went up to about 7300 feet, dropped to a low of 3500 feet, and then went back up to 6500 and finally down to about 5800 feet. We had lots of ups and downs along the way.
The truck freaked out at one point when it realized there were no chargers within its calculated range. We continued driving; it kept freaking out.
We left Flagstaff with 100% charge, 123 kWh on the CarScanner report. We drive the speed limit (65 mph, along with slowdowns, etc). The winds were pretty bad: steady crosswinds of 25-30 mph and gusts up to 50 mph. We arrived in Page, 210 km later, with about 77 kWh (65% SoC) remaining. After a quick stop, we continued on--there's no fast charging in Page. We arrived at Kodachrome with about 53 kWh (37% SoC) left. A total of about 320 km driving using about 70 kWh, for an efficiency of 4.5-4.6 km/kwh (2.8-2.9 miles/kWh).
Now 53 kWh is obviously not enough to get back home, and we'd planned for that. The second night we had an RV site with 50 Amp service. We parked the truck there at around 3:30 PM and it was back up to 100% SoC when we retrieved the truck the following morning.
On our drive home, we encountered more winds, but they weren't as bad. However, we were climbing up in total elevation, so we expected to lose some efficiency. And we did. Overall we drove around 320 km and used 79 kWh of energy for an efficiency of 4.0-4.1 km/kWh (2.5 miles/kWh).
Overall, this was a fantastic camping trip. We'll probably reserve an RV site every night next time we stay here, which is usually twice a year. When we've gone before, we've always had to go into Bryce to fill up on gas, which usually takes at least half a day. Freeing ourselves from that necessity has been fantastic!
A few things on my to-do list:
1) Get an induction cooktop to replace the propane stove.
2) Figure out a propane/firewood replacement for the "fire" pit. I'm allergic to wood smoke, and I would love to be done with propane entirely.
3) Add a solar canopy that pulls over the side of the truck. While we had way more energy than we needed for running the fridge, on longer, hotter boondocking trips, we'll need a bit more power generation for the fridge and I'd like to plug in my L1 charger to add a few kWh to the truck. A 3-day summer camping trip like this one could give us around 12 hours of clean sun, so a 400-600 Watt PV canopy could generate around 6 kWh in a day, and even if only 3 of those go to the truck, the weekend total could be 9kWh to the truck, or almost 50 km (30 miles). For a weekend trip where there aren't any chargers, 50 km gives me a nice buffer to play with. The weight won't add up to a noticeable impact, and a flat surface 300 mm, 100 mm, or 0 mm above the tonneau cover really doesn't change the overall drag on the truck.
My take is that a lot of the towing is just physics. Doesnt really have much to do with the drivetrain type. My Tundra range/mpg drops right about half when pulling my GD 2400BH (30' long, 11.5' tall, ~6500lbs).
So I'd look at what is your normal range vs your range when towing? That'd be a good starting guesstimate. For me, I'd expect the Terra to get 250mi, and then work it downward from there based on road conditions (wind and elevation gains mostly).
As for towing, the Terra truck is said to have 10k capacity and 2k payload. The Traveler SUV is 7k towing capacity but not sure about payload. With RVs, you typically run out of payload before towing capacity.
(how I envision my Terra looking in front of my GD, despite my atrocious photoshop skills
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I think this is mostly true unless someone's running with a 3/4 ton or larger truck--those beasts don't often see a huge decrease in efficiency with towing because they're already terribly inefficient. But a half-ton like the Tundra or Lightning will see a drop about equivalent.
The biggest difference is that cold has a greater impact on EV range than it has on ICE range.
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That's a nice-looking Mustang!
I think if Scout is looking to help with the transition to EVs, one thing they might do is provide data about how far the vehicle could go on all-electric even when the Harvester has been engaged.
For example, the Lightning has a "here's how efficient you were with regenerative braking" information screen and someone the driver can game that while slowing to learn how to get the most out of regeneration.
If Scout would include a similar way to game the design so drivers could have instantaneous feedback on the statistics about how much or how little they're using the Harvester, that would go a long way toward reducing range anxiety of an EV-only option.
OK, for what it's worth:
Background: I live just outside of Denver, and learned to drive in my dad's '77 SSII, and very excited to have reservations for both a Traveler and a Terra - will decide truck or SUV when the time comes. Clicked the box for the Harvester Option on both - primarily due to two reasons: 1) very easy to get into long drives very quickly in Colorado, and not sure about charger infrastructure and 2) have never owned an EV or even a hybrid.
So both reasons really are one reason: range anxiety.
Currently driving a '13 Xterra Pro-4X, so my "comfort level" is 270-300 miles of range @ 15-16 mpg, a little bit higher on the highway, so used to dropping $50-$75 on fuel at a time.
On a whim, my wife and I leased a Hyundai Ioniq5 last week - there were some great year end incentives in Colorado, from Hyundai, the federal government and the state. We figured it would be a relatively low cost way to test our appetite for a full EV situation. Lease came with 2 years of free charging at Electrify America, which happen to be at our local Target, where we are 1-2 times per week anyway.
So, one week in, here's what I've learned, hopefully it's helpful to other people who have similar anxiety issues.
tldr: EV driving requires a bit of a mind-set change, but if things continue like the first week, I'll probably end up cancelling my Harvester option.
So: This is not a Hyundai review, but holy cow - after 250 miles of driving I kind of wish we'd spent a little more and got the limited package (we went with the SEL, because "this is only a test..."). I love this little car. On "eco" mode its faster (seat of the pants-o-meter) than my wife's Infiniti QX30, which was a seriously quick car. On Sport Mode? Almost terrifying. I am really going to love electric power.
As for the range? I'm only one charge in, and we are in the worst time of year for an EV, I don't think we've turned the seat or steering wheel heaters off since we took the car home, and because it's still a new toy I'm utilizing Sport mode quite a bit more than I will once it's just the "car" and not "the new car". But we got just over 200 miles, including a couple airport trips in the cold, so 75+mph, and went from 90% to 7%. I plugged it into the free-to-me charger (figuring that out the first time took a couple tries, but I got it) and went into Target, got a coffee and did the grocery shopping.
in 36 minutes, the car went from 7% to just over 80%, at what would have been $36 but was covered under our 2 year deal, and continued on with my weekend.
In normal life, thanks to working from home, we don't drive over 200 miles in a typical week anyway.
So here's my first mind-set change: Rather than look at the fuel gauge every time I get in the car, and find a station if its 1/4 or less, I'm just going to hit Target on Saturday mornings while I grocery shop and stop worrying about it. For us, that's very little change in practical terms, just learning a different way to think about fuel. I wake up early and tend to do the grocery shopping anyway, so in a lot of ways it's more convenient than making a stop at the pumps at random times.
Second mindset change: as I've seen in other threads on this board, rather than wait until the batteries are nearly empty, more of an "opportunity" mindset is needed. Hitting target because we're out of papertowels? 10 minutes on the charger will add about 30-45 seconds to my errand, and some power is better than none.
Third mindset change: I've watched a couple (OK, more than a few) videos on youtube about this - can't wait for the summer to do some weekend trips to the mountains, and rather than choose a destination and find fuel on the way, we'll choose a destination and utilize the charger finding options that are built into the car and charger apps. 200 miles between breaks is enough, hopefully my days of 900+ mile drives are behind me anyway.
I'm looking forward to seeing if this really changes our experience, or just adjusts part of it. Obviously Alpine Loop type trips will still be in the Xterra for now, but as chargers hopefully continue to multiply between now and 2-3 years from now, that could change.
That's it - hopefully this is helpful for some people in a similar situation.
Background: I live just outside of Denver, and learned to drive in my dad's '77 SSII, and very excited to have reservations for both a Traveler and a Terra - will decide truck or SUV when the time comes. Clicked the box for the Harvester Option on both - primarily due to two reasons: 1) very easy to get into long drives very quickly in Colorado, and not sure about charger infrastructure and 2) have never owned an EV or even a hybrid.
So both reasons really are one reason: range anxiety.
Currently driving a '13 Xterra Pro-4X, so my "comfort level" is 270-300 miles of range @ 15-16 mpg, a little bit higher on the highway, so used to dropping $50-$75 on fuel at a time.
On a whim, my wife and I leased a Hyundai Ioniq5 last week - there were some great year end incentives in Colorado, from Hyundai, the federal government and the state. We figured it would be a relatively low cost way to test our appetite for a full EV situation. Lease came with 2 years of free charging at Electrify America, which happen to be at our local Target, where we are 1-2 times per week anyway.
So, one week in, here's what I've learned, hopefully it's helpful to other people who have similar anxiety issues.
tldr: EV driving requires a bit of a mind-set change, but if things continue like the first week, I'll probably end up cancelling my Harvester option.
So: This is not a Hyundai review, but holy cow - after 250 miles of driving I kind of wish we'd spent a little more and got the limited package (we went with the SEL, because "this is only a test..."). I love this little car. On "eco" mode its faster (seat of the pants-o-meter) than my wife's Infiniti QX30, which was a seriously quick car. On Sport Mode? Almost terrifying. I am really going to love electric power.
As for the range? I'm only one charge in, and we are in the worst time of year for an EV, I don't think we've turned the seat or steering wheel heaters off since we took the car home, and because it's still a new toy I'm utilizing Sport mode quite a bit more than I will once it's just the "car" and not "the new car". But we got just over 200 miles, including a couple airport trips in the cold, so 75+mph, and went from 90% to 7%. I plugged it into the free-to-me charger (figuring that out the first time took a couple tries, but I got it) and went into Target, got a coffee and did the grocery shopping.
in 36 minutes, the car went from 7% to just over 80%, at what would have been $36 but was covered under our 2 year deal, and continued on with my weekend.
In normal life, thanks to working from home, we don't drive over 200 miles in a typical week anyway.
So here's my first mind-set change: Rather than look at the fuel gauge every time I get in the car, and find a station if its 1/4 or less, I'm just going to hit Target on Saturday mornings while I grocery shop and stop worrying about it. For us, that's very little change in practical terms, just learning a different way to think about fuel. I wake up early and tend to do the grocery shopping anyway, so in a lot of ways it's more convenient than making a stop at the pumps at random times.
Second mindset change: as I've seen in other threads on this board, rather than wait until the batteries are nearly empty, more of an "opportunity" mindset is needed. Hitting target because we're out of papertowels? 10 minutes on the charger will add about 30-45 seconds to my errand, and some power is better than none.
Third mindset change: I've watched a couple (OK, more than a few) videos on youtube about this - can't wait for the summer to do some weekend trips to the mountains, and rather than choose a destination and find fuel on the way, we'll choose a destination and utilize the charger finding options that are built into the car and charger apps. 200 miles between breaks is enough, hopefully my days of 900+ mile drives are behind me anyway.
I'm looking forward to seeing if this really changes our experience, or just adjusts part of it. Obviously Alpine Loop type trips will still be in the Xterra for now, but as chargers hopefully continue to multiply between now and 2-3 years from now, that could change.
That's it - hopefully this is helpful for some people in a similar situation.
The ability to charge at home is really a game changer, but with 2 years of free charging, I can see no rush in making that investment (yet).
Having solar on your roof makes home charging a no brainer too. I think if more people tip-toed into the EV water, we would see more pure electric reservations... Pure EV makes it really hard to go back to gas - I would have a hard time going back to a gas truck.
Having solar on your roof makes home charging a no brainer too. I think if more people tip-toed into the EV water, we would see more pure electric reservations... Pure EV makes it really hard to go back to gas - I would have a hard time going back to a gas truck.
Yeah, the panels are on the roof and over-producing, so I'm looking forward to putting some of that into the car - but it requires a new panel, so the whole project will cost more than the 2 year car lease - so no big rush while charging is free, just want it done before the Scout gets here.
Did you get a 120V "mobile" charger with your lease? If so, there's zero reason not to use it while you're parked at home. Yes, it's "slow," but if the car is sitting doing nothing, you might as well be charging it. If you didn't get one, you can find one for less than $250 and use that. It's also good to carry it with you on trips, just in case.
Yeah, I'd be surprised if they didn't include the level 1 charger? But... perhaps not?
I have a Level 2 charger at home, despite only owning a PHEV (which, I'd argue makes more of a difference with a PHEV, but I digress). I leave the level 1 charger in the vehicle for road trips, and have definitely used it. Its harder to use at places like hotels, but if you're ever visiting family/friends with a real garage/driveway, its pretty easy to find a 120v outlet within reach.
A level 1 charger at home can add something like ~3 miles of range per hour to the vehicle. Its slow... but if the car is sitting for ~12-18 hours at a time, thats some decent range.
I have a co-worker locally who has owned 2 EV's for a few years, yet only a few months ago finally got a Level 2 charger at home. Prior to that he did like 80-90% of his charging on the level 1 chargers (he has a Model Y, and a Ford F150 Lightning).
Yeah. When I do my semi-regular road trip to the Los Angeles valley (about 1100 miles round trip), I often charge on Level 1 for the several days I'm there. It's not "perfect" (whatever that means) but it can take me from 50% to 100% in a few days of minimal driving.
When we moved, we took the L2 charger with us but I didn't make the time to install it for more than a year. We lived with L1 that entire time, including through the snowiest winter we'd seen in years (12 feet of snow total). It did just fine for us. We never went to a local DCFC either. We definitely do appreciate the L2 charging over L1 charging, but L1 is possible in many cases.
We also own an Ionic 5, and also love it. However, I will tell you if you're looking to do a highway trip, the car range estimate is nowhere near reliable. I believe this to be consistent among EVs based on what I've read. I'm not saying anything new but highway commutes of significant distance and towing are not pure BEV strong suits. Ours is rated to be capable of 303 miles. While that may be true around town, we wouldn't have made it 200 on our highway trip last weekend... When we left, according to car projections, I should have been able to make my trip with over 120 miles to spare.
Hoping future technology will result in more accurate estimates and consistent battery discharge. Whether it does or doesn't, I'm opting for the harvester, personally.
It all depends on what an individual intends to use their BEV/EREV for... I'm not implying there is a right answer.
Hoping future technology will result in more accurate estimates and consistent battery discharge. Whether it does or doesn't, I'm opting for the harvester, personally.
It all depends on what an individual intends to use their BEV/EREV for... I'm not implying there is a right answer.
Losing 1/3 of your projected range on a drive does not sound normal. Have you inquired with service? Do you see this in moderate temps?
I will say that Rivian has done an excellent job with its estimates, but I do take a hit in bitter cold (sub-freezing) temps, but not like that. It's also much better to pre-condition if cold to maximize range, so i am now sure to do that before longer winter trips, and plan accordingly.
Can you throw this article on the thread “we own EVs, ask us anything”. Would be great to track your experiences if you continue to share. I love these stories. As noted, I have an Accord hybrid for my transition vehicle but still NEW to EV and like hearing these learning experiences.
Thanks for sharing.
Strangely no, but we did get the V2L adaptor, so I can charge other peoples stuff from my car, just not my car from the house. Apparently in 2024 you needed to upgrade to the Limited package to get the Level 1 plug. Since we have Level 2 wiring in the plans for this year, I'm not concerned about it
Happy to, but I hate to have it in two places, is there a way to just move it? Mods, something you can do? Just realized I've been active on various forums for a long time, but have never moved a thread....
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