Tailgate and/or Tailgating
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Gotta appeal to the other generations too. Add 10 speakers on that mount and a slide out gaming chair with colored LED’s and you have a mobile e-sports rideHow very "pimp my ride" of you to think of!
. Perfect when your stuck in the wilderness for a night with “nothing to do”. 
I casted my vote too. I vehemently support a drop down for five reasons:
1. Keep the fit/finish original (with the exception of the tire rack)
2. For mountain bikers like me, who prefer hitch racks, that is the best option. Having a side hinge with a hitch mount rack is a nightmare and requires a lot of extra, expensive hardware.
3. Hauling large items, like lumber, if you have a hardtop is next to impossible with a side hinge configuration
4. It's much easier to open a drop-down in tight spaces than a side hinge
5. Who doesn't love to sit on their tail gate and let their legs dangle on the trail??
1. Keep the fit/finish original (with the exception of the tire rack)
2. For mountain bikers like me, who prefer hitch racks, that is the best option. Having a side hinge with a hitch mount rack is a nightmare and requires a lot of extra, expensive hardware.
3. Hauling large items, like lumber, if you have a hardtop is next to impossible with a side hinge configuration
4. It's much easier to open a drop-down in tight spaces than a side hinge
5. Who doesn't love to sit on their tail gate and let their legs dangle on the trail??
Original scout ll tailgate please. W/ glass flip up window. Easy to drop down and sit on, tailgate fun etc. also use same style hardware to hold it parallel. Also the license plate holder that flips up. The spare inside optional or swing arm on bumper.
For those that are against the swing-out side hinge door, like me, a swing out tire carrier presents the same challenge for those of us that routinely use hitch style racks. In my initial post I accidentally commented on my potential preference for the spare to be on a swing arm.
A lot of hitch-style bike racks can tilt down and out of the way so you can open a drop-down tailgate. However they don't provide enough tilt to permit anything with a side hinge (door, swing arm, etc.) to get by. This will be a significant issue for those of us that do not remove our hitch racks.
As cool as I think it would be to have a spare mounted to the inside wall of the rear cargo area it will undoubtedly take up too much valuable space.
I think the most practical spot for it would be under the bed of the cargo area.
A lot of hitch-style bike racks can tilt down and out of the way so you can open a drop-down tailgate. However they don't provide enough tilt to permit anything with a side hinge (door, swing arm, etc.) to get by. This will be a significant issue for those of us that do not remove our hitch racks.
As cool as I think it would be to have a spare mounted to the inside wall of the rear cargo area it will undoubtedly take up too much valuable space.
I think the most practical spot for it would be under the bed of the cargo area.
I just saw this video and at minute marker 4:54 he shows off the rear where it is basically a tailgate. I'm hope we can get something similar to this for the scout especially if it incorporates with a possible removable roof....either way rivians are the closest exampel of what the scout can be capable so i've been following closely and even seeing a few in my are already.
Also showing it is possible to fit the spare tire underneath on an EV.
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Crazy....its like they were reading my mind
. Only thing not included is the soft side, foldable sidewalls to increase the depth for an ice trough.Moose on TikTok
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My three positive take aways
1- the 40/20/40 split seats in middle row-at least they appeared that way but the fold down lever took them down as 60/40. PKEASE give us 40/20/40 splits for more passenger flexibility
2-the third row fold down appeared as though the cargo area was NOT flat but again, after he folded the middle row down it all appeared to be flat. Please one flat level. Honda mastered that with their “magic” seats in the HRV
3-LOVE the flexible outlets/plug ports configuration. I do NOT like the plastic slide covers though. First time you slide something bulky in they’ll get stripped off the side wall. If they could be flush/hidden on a compression closer that would be more ideal. Anything that projects in that load zone is just buying time until it gets destroyed.
Final take away is I like the hatch/tailgate size and configuration no the Rivian but I don’t know if it will work with the appearance/design of the sScout. The lower tailgate make it so easy to reach in and grab stuff.
I apparently didn't watch the whole video the first time. After rewatching it I also noticed the touch screen it had. Although it probably won't be well received here, I really liked the long, wide-screen look! The Scout II had that same long feel with components of its dash.
Honda's drop/swing gate has worked well for me. (Along with waterproof under bed stowage. Thinking Scout Terra 4-Door here.
For the SUV, I agree with upper hatch/lower gate. Be sure hatch can be opened when bike rack is mounted.
I know it looks macho to have a big spare hanging on the back but it just says "steal me".
I know cutting cost on every corner is important, so maybe as an option a hydraulic/electric jack. The whole gizmo with a cord might pack easier than the cheap bulky screwjack.
A simple fold down tailgate with a standard-size spare in the frunk or alongside the rear quarter panel (Scout II style) works really well. Of course that would significantly limit tire size and let Wrangler and Bronco own the style of having an exterior rear-mount full-size spare. Therefore, the new Scout should also have an optional bumper-mounted (very robust) swing-away tire carrier for those who wanted one. A removable TravelTop could have a simple one-piece glass backlite that hinges up (mounted with gas cylinders) to easily gain access to the rear. If not too thick, heavy or expensive, the backlite could retract in the tailgate. Having an extended flat load floor with the tailgate down, even while driving, is a big plus and not just for tailgating. (Scout IIs even had a flip-down license plate bracket for this). BTW, I believe Ted Ornas, in part, did the up-kick in the Scout II "C" (rear-most) pillar to help hide the spare.
I would avoid automatic motorized hatch openers for the weight, cost and complexity they bring.
I would avoid automatic motorized hatch openers for the weight, cost and complexity they bring.
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The initial EV Scout (2- & 4-door models) could be established with a very simple, affordable design and I would love to see it weigh less that 5500 pounds. This will contrast nicely with the general cost of new similar vehicles to help re-establish the brand.
When climbing steep slippery slopes, the best drivetrain computers and wheel sensors can never fully compensate for the weight penalty and overcome the vertical force vector; not to mention sinking deeper into sand, mud, etc.
Option-laden and heavier upscale models could be released later when ready although early adopters will want to pay for them.
Until there is a battery/charging breakthrough, I would avoid pushing a high tow rating, even though that was one of the great capabilities that sold Scout IIs.
When climbing steep slippery slopes, the best drivetrain computers and wheel sensors can never fully compensate for the weight penalty and overcome the vertical force vector; not to mention sinking deeper into sand, mud, etc.
Option-laden and heavier upscale models could be released later when ready although early adopters will want to pay for them.
Until there is a battery/charging breakthrough, I would avoid pushing a high tow rating, even though that was one of the great capabilities that sold Scout IIs.
Cool idea for a table when camping/tailgating. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT8Fe3VrA/
This is a great idea, surprised other manufacturers haven't caught wind. I'm a huge fan of the slide out tailgate in my Bronco. This is where I eat my lunch daily at lunch. Others love it for fishing.
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Is the Bronco slide out OEM or where’d you get. My daughter might like that for hers.