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nolen said:
But we are second in the amount of CO2 produced by country, albeit significantly behind China. However we produce more than China per capita since our population is so much smaller than theirs. Whether you measure it by pure tons produced or tons per person, we are a significant source of CO2 in the world. We have made agreements with other countries to work together to reduce but it is hard to get others to keep their promises when we won't. Everyone wants the other to go first
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China is also first in emissions because they have pretty much zero regulations in place. That’s why a lot of manufacturing got sent there. Life is cheap. It’s cool if your food contains lead.

This MIT website doesn’t do a good job answering these questions. Some of these answers could have been written with more sympathy for the reader. As a person who was once paid to do jobs like this, I know what a thankless task it is because the people you’re trying to translate think you’re dumbing them down and the people trying to understand the scientists and engineers recognize that they’re speaking the same language, they’re just not using it in a way that makes any sense within the context of their lives.
 
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Cranky Canuck said:
Lithium isn't mined in pits either. That is simply oil industry propaganda. Lithium is a salt and is usually extracted from a water brine. The majority of the world's lithium comes from brine ponds where the water evaporates and the lithium is scraped up and then processed. In fact there are places that are working on mining lithium from sea water as a by product of desalination. Either way it's not an open pit mine like they do for coal or copper, that whole idea is a straight up lie.
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“Lithium Lakes” and Water Brines is where it comes from, there are videos on youtube of people picking up the white lithium from the Ponds. It’s kinda cool but strange.

And yes how lithium is “mined” is all crap made from the oil industry trying to protect them selfs. But they need to learn to live with each other, because the stuff they both accuse each other of is B.S.

EVs will evolve, and the market can always change in ten years from now leaning more towards Gas. And Oil ain't going nowhere since the earth continues to make it. And Batteries aren’t going anywhere since we can recycle old batteries to make new ones.
 
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THil08 said:
“Lithium Lakes” is where it comes from there are videos on youtube of people picking up the white lithium salt.

And yes how lithium is “mined” is all crap made from the oil industry trying to protect them selfs. But they need to learn to live with each other, because the stuff they both accuse each other of is B.S.
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Who's "they"? Is there a "big lithium" I'm not aware of? lol

From what I've seen over the past decade or so the BS around EVs has been flowing from one main direction. There's no "both sides" thing here.
 
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Who's "they"? Is there a "big lithium" I'm not aware of? lol
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No lol, im taking about the manufactures and mining companies.
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From what I've seen over the past decade or so the BS around EVs has been flowing from one main direction. There's no "both sides" thing here.
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There’s two sides to everything. It might not be as vocalized as the Gas industry, but it’s out there.
 
THil08 said:
What I don’t understand is that the USA is less than 5% of the worlds population so why are we trying to take the burden to fix this. Put it on other countries too.
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Because, even though we have about 4.2% of the world’s population, we emit almost 14% of the co2, ie 3x the world average. I’m sure it’s not the worst, but it still means we have a ways to go to do our share. Europe has twice the population but generates less co2, and they’re still planning to do more than we are planning. We don’t need to take all the burden, and no one is saying we should. China and Europe are doing a lot more to reduce CO2 emissions than we are. We don’t need to do it all, and indeed there’s no way we could, we just need to do our part.
 
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