Suggestion: Autonomous Driving Mode

[Darren James]

For those who have tried out the latest Tesla full self driving version (13), autonomous driving can improve driver safety and free up the driver's mental state on long road trips.

If would be great to have Scout license another company's ADAS, and offer it as a subscription. Those who want it can use it, and those who prefer to be in control can continue enjoying the driving they love.

 

[JoeG]

Since Scout/VW will have access to Rivian's software, wouldn't it make sense to simply use Rivian's self driving technology?

 

[Darren James]

Probably makes more sense to utilize as much of the Rivian IP as they can. I don't hear much about the Rivian ADAS, is it any good?

 

[TimmyHil08]

I don’t know if scout will have self driving since Scout big idea at the reveal was to make the return of not making humans lazy by relying on AI. That’s why it has REAL door handles, physical buttons, etc. I’m sure it will have ADAS since it’s becoming a federal law that new cars have to have those systems along with rear seatbelt sensors now starting in September of 2027.

 

[J Alynn]

I don’t know if scout will have self driving since Scout big idea at the reveal was to make the return of not making humans lazy by relying on AI. That’s why it has REAL door handles, physical buttons, etc. I’m sure it will have ADAS since it’s becoming a federal law that new cars have to have those systems along with rear seatbelt sensors now starting in September of 2027.

I concur and lots of early conversations and community requests were to make the Scout trucks driver engaged. If it can be an option and I don’t pay for it add it as an option but I’m a driver, not a commuter and I want to control my vehicle as it keeps me alert and engaged. But to each their own and if others want to pay for that please enjoy- but I’ll still blow my horn if you are in front of me doing your make up on the way to work

 

[TimmyHil08]

I concur and lots of early conversations and community requests were to make the Scout trucks driver engaged. If it can be an option and I don’t pay for it add it as an option but I’m a driver, not a commuter and I want to control my vehicle as it keeps me alert and engaged. But to each their own and if others want to pay for that please enjoy- but I’ll still blow my horn if you are in front of me doing your make up on the way to work

I don’t mind if ADAS comes standard on it. As long as i can disable it that would be great. I don’t want a car controlling me ya know. I don’t it yelling at me for going by 5 over the speed limit, i do the yelling at other drivers for going to slow in the fast lane, i don’t my car to be yelling at me. Fully Autonomous driving i have never been a huge fan on mainly because its just a AI learning data base. If they want to do a cruise control will a lane keeping system thats cool i don't mind that.

Dont get me started on people doing their makeup, this is how it goes for me:

I brake check people who do their make up while driving. Thats something that has to be done at home. I speed up get in front a slam on my brakes, keeps them alert. Maybe rips a few eyelashes out if they are using those stupid curlers.

 

[Phenix]

I would like to see scout ignore most of the ADAS trends short of what can be accomplished with very basic cameras and sensors.
Adaptive cruise control and lane keep assist should be standard, entry level cars have that.
A decent backup camera. MAYBE parking sensors, but leave it at that.
I don't need some $18,000 box full of coolant and electronics in the cabin so my car can pretend to drive for me. I don't want to compromise and get a crappier option because all the good stuff is lumped in with the ADAS cars. Don't need it and it usually is not very good for the first several years.

 

[Scoutsie]

Dont get me started on people doing their makeup, this is how it goes for me:

I brake check people who do their make up while driving. Thats something that has to be done at home. I speed up get in front a slam on my brakes, keeps them alert. Maybe rips a few eyelashes out if they are using those stupid curlers.

I don’t disagree that doing your makeup in the car while you’re driving is incredibly stupid (and is going to look awful), but why not report them to the cops?

 

[TimmyHil08]

I don’t disagree that doing your makeup in the car while you’re driving is incredibly stupid (and is going to look awful), but why not report them to the cops?

By the time the cops get to them the makeup is already done.

 

[Scoutsie]

By the time the cops get to them the makeup is already done.

I mean, it is Jersey and they’ve probably got bigger fish to fry, but it’s probably safer than going vigilante if they’re driving dangerously. If you don’t like what they’re doing but it’s not actually causing anyone any problems, why bother?

 

[TimmyHil08]

I mean, it is Jersey and they’ve probably got bigger fish to fry, but it’s probably safer than going vigilante if they’re driving dangerously. If you don’t like what they’re doing but it’s not actually causing anyone any problems, why bother?

True lol but their faces when they notice is just hilarious but i should probably stop before they rear end my car.

And at the moment NJ Police are to worried about the drones that are a military operation that they just don't want to say because they know the backlash the state will get so instead they are making the police look good by sending them out for no reason wasting resources. Its like the autobahn over here at the moment.

 

[Scoutsie]

True lol but their faces when they notice is just hilarious but i should probably stop before they rear end my car.

And at the moment NJ Police are to worried about the drones that are a military operation that they just don't want to say because they know the backlash the state will get so instead they are making the police look good by sending them out for no reason wasting resources. Its like the autobahn over here at the moment.

Oh, I get the joy of seeing someone’s idiot face in a moment of rage, but no, it’s not gonna be worth the repair and hassle if you get rear-ended. Nothing says you can’t lay on the horn, though.

What was this thread actually about? Oh, autonomous driving. I thought you weren’t supposed to take your eyes off of the road for those things or it gets disabled? It seems kind of pointless if your eyes have to be on the road and your hands need to be near the steering wheel at all times anyhow.

 

[PhotonMaverick]

Full self driving is a joke at this point in time. I see Waymo and other self driving cars messing up the flow of traffic in the Bay Area all the time. I wouldn’t want to pay early adoption cost for that technology in the Scout vehicles. I think such options should be reserved for the luxury market.

That said, the GM SuperCruise capability works well on the interstate. This advanced adaptive cruising tech would be a great option…especially if you get 500 miles of range. At a minimum, having a solid adaptive cruise control is almost a mandate on a new car. It makes long distance driving easier and virtually every manufacturer is offering this at a low price point now.

 

[Chaz26]

Full self driving is a joke at this point in time. I see Waymo and other self driving cars messing up the flow of traffic in the Bay Area all the time. I wouldn’t want to pay early adoption cost for that technology in the Scout vehicles. I think such options should be reserved for the luxury market.

That said, the GM SuperCruise capability works well on the interstate. This advanced adaptive cruising tech would be a great option…especially if you get 500 miles of range. At a minimum, having a solid adaptive cruise control is almost a mandate on a new car. It makes long distance driving easier and virtually every manufacturer is offering this at a low price point now.

Agreed, I have a Tesla, I don't have the FSD but I did get a couple of 30 day trials of it and while it is impressive, it's not as good as a normal person driving and can make some wrong decisions or be very slow at junctions and stop signs. All I'd really like is good lane centering with adaptive cruise, and hands free on highway with eye tracking would be nice. Even auto lane changes, while nice (as long as you can pick when to do it by using the turn signal, I hate when they just auto change to the outside lane for no reason and then stay there) is not that essential as it's easy enough to do and then reset the cruise afterwards.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

Wake me when I can take a nap while the car is driving, or when it can drop me off at the front door and go park itself until I need it again. ‘Til then it seems like just a minor convenience, not worth paying a lot of money for.

 

[Amadeus]

One person's opinion: Scout engineers, please do NOT spend time implementing FSD. I have zero interest in ever using it. I say this as a current Tesla owner who has tried (and promptly sworn off) FSD. I don't see it being good enough for me to trust it, possibly ever.

I'm fine with adaptive cruise - you can make a pretty good one of those without any AI / complex processing. Simple rules and simple tech get you there.

 

[AjzRide]

One person's opinion: Scout engineers, please do NOT spend time implementing FSD. I have zero interest in ever using it. I say this as a current Tesla owner who has tried (and promptly sworn off) FSD. I don't see it being good enough for me to trust it, possibly ever.

You’ve created a snake eating its tail. If no one uses FSD type features, there will be no feedback and no data to analyze, and it will never improve. Just because you don’t want to be part of the test group doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a test group. I highly utilize all ADAS features because I firmly believe we must develop the technology (laws aren’t working, people still stare at their phones while driving, no one thinks they will be the person who kills someone else). I embrace it as beta technology and take on the role of “test pilot” as long as I can turn it off when I’m in the mood to do so.

 

[Amadeus]

You’ve created a snake eating its tail. If no one uses FSD type features, there will be no feedback and no data to analyze, and it will never improve. Just because you don’t want to be part of the test group doesn’t mean there shouldn’t be a test group.

Yeah, I’ve heard this argument before. I think where we might disagree is that I doubt the tech will *ever* be good enough.

On a more fundamental level, I also think cars should be a tool more akin to a power drill. Something I control to move myself around. For those who want the tech-heavy approach, Rivian is already doing that. I’d hope to not pay extra for the development of a feature I’ll never use.

 

[Moates442]

For those who have tried out the latest Tesla full self driving version (13), autonomous driving can improve driver safety and free up the driver's mental state on long road trips.

If would be great to have Scout license another company's ADAS, and offer it as a subscription. Those who want it can use it, and those who prefer to be in control can continue enjoying the driving they love.

Only problem is Tesla FSD isn't really FSD. It's still a hands-on system. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Mercedes-Benz is the only manufacturer that has approved Level 3, although it's only approved in Nevada and California at the time.

 

[J Alynn]

Yeah, I’ve heard this argument before. I think where we might disagree is that I doubt the tech will *ever* be good enough.

On a more fundamental level, I also think cars should be a tool more akin to a power drill. Something I control to move myself around. For those who want the tech-heavy approach, Rivian is already doing that. I’d hope to not pay extra for the development of a feature I’ll never use.

I see both sides of this as I don’t trust FSD-yet but the reference to cell phones is the bigger issue and probably the bigger push for FSD. What needs done is to crack down on cell phone use when driving. I’m still a fan of a signal boost of some kind mounted in the steering wheel that prevents phones from working in the driver’s seat unless it’s connected hands free and then only call/phone feature should be active. When in park, that is fine, phone can function. I don’t understand why everyone feels the need to check TikTok, Facebook and social media while driving. That is the root of so many road issues any more. And I get there will be downtime for charging but do we really need movies playing and game controllers? Our country fails at communicating-in person. Take the 20 minutes you’re charging to actually talk to your kids, your spouse, whomever is in the vehicle with you-your dog . If your a contractor slide across the bench, pull out the tray and make a few work calls and catch up with paperwork. But we are, as a country, addicted to social media. And while Scott Keough wants Scouts to be social, I think he intends with the community, out in nature, not on X bitching about the newest life issue.

While I’m ranting I think fines should be quadrupled for drivers using handsets in any vehicle-new or old and half those funds should be used for charger infrastructure improvements and expansions.