Suggestion: Autonomous Driving Mode

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I see both sides of this as I don’t trust FSD-yet but the reference to cell phones is the bigger issue and probably the bigger push for FSD. What needs done is to crack down on cell phone use when driving. I’m still a fan of a signal boost of some kind mounted in the steering wheel that prevents phones from working in the driver’s seat unless it’s connected hands free and then only call/phone feature should be active. When in park, that is fine, phone can function. I don’t understand why everyone feels the need to check TikTok, Facebook and social media while driving. That is the root of so many road issues any more. And I get there will be downtime for charging but do we really need movies playing and game controllers? Our country fails at communicating-in person. Take the 20 minutes you’re charging to actually talk to your kids, your spouse, whomever is in the vehicle with you-your dog 🤣. If your a contractor slide across the bench, pull out the tray and make a few work calls and catch up with paperwork. But we are, as a country, addicted to social media. And while Scott Keough wants Scouts to be social, I think he intends with the community, out in nature, not on X bitching about the newest life issue.

While I’m ranting I think fines should be quadrupled for drivers using handsets in any vehicle-new or old and half those funds should be used for charger infrastructure improvements and expansions.
I agree. As a motorcyclist, I am amazed at how many people drive with their phones stuck in their faces. I know other countries have very strict enforcement for cell phone use while driving. What seems to be the problem here in the U.S. as to why it's not enforced?

They should make the car a giant Faraday Cage when it is not in Park, therefore making the cell phone is useless.

I agree with you about how bad we communicate in person. I took my son to dinner for his birthday. We sat there chatting for hours, no once looking at our phones. The waitress kept coming up to ask if we needed anything. Then one time, she told us that she noticed that we don't have our cell phones out. I told her that's because I trained my kids just to talk. On long road trips, we would just talk. Restaurants, no phones, just talk. So, they don't know any better. She was astounded. She told us to look inside the dining area at some couples. She pointed to different tables where the couples were both on their phones. She said they have been like that since they got here. So, they came to a restaurant together just to sit on their phones and stare at whatever. That in a nutshell, is the problem with out society. But I blame the parents. I don't how many kids or small children and toddlers with a device in their hands? Why? Why did you have kids if you didn't want to talk to them? I don't get it.

Australia is smart. They just recently banned anyone under the age of 16 from being on social media. That's a great start.
 
I was inspect Pictures of the Steering wheel.

I found a button on the wheel that has dashed lines like a road with the scout steering wheel in the center of it. I think we can take it as that it will have a cruise control or lane keeping ADAS system of some sort.
 
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I own a Tesla and love the FSD (13.2.2). I would settle for highway adaptive cruise control with stop and go and Lane Centering Assist “LCA”.

Lane Keep Assist “LKA” (bouncing you between the lines) and not having stop and go adaptive cruise (doesn’t work below 20MPH) would bum me out.

We have a lot of highways and traffic in Texas and the LCA and Adaptive Cruise with stop and go (for use in traffic) is amazing. Even if I have to touch the steering wheel every so often I don’t mind. Add massaging front seats!
 
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I own a Tesla and love the FSD (13.2.2). I would settle for highway adaptive cruise control with stop and go and Lane Centering Assist “LCA”.

Lane Keep Assist “LKA” (bouncing you between the lines) and not having stop and go adaptive cruise (doesn’t work below 20MPH) would bum me out.

We have a lot of highways and traffic in Texas and the LCA and Adaptive Cruise with stop and go (for use in traffic) is amazing. Even if I have to touch the steering wheel every so often I don’t mind. Add massaging front seats!
I recently was sitting behind a Tesla in heavy traffic and as a driver behind-I absolutely hate it. The driver was using it. The car would jump to go forward and no sooner would the brakes stop it. So every time it happened I slammed on my brakes because it only moved 8”-12”.
After three rounds of that I forced myself into the other lane to get behind a logical stop and go driver. As I passed the driver was completely engaged on his phone. That all said I find it very annoying when following an enabled vehicle. I wouldn’t be surprised if Teslas are getting rear ended because of the way the system operates
 
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I recently was sitting behind a Tesla in heavy traffic and as a driver behind-I absolutely hate it. The driver was using it. The car would jump to go forward and no sooner would the brakes stop it. So every time it happened I slammed on my brakes because it only moved 8”-12”.
After three rounds of that I forced myself into the other lane to get behind a logical stop and go driver. As I passed the driver was completely engaged on his phone. That all said I find it very annoying when following an enabled vehicle. I would be surprised if Teslas are getting rear ended because of the way the system operates
I hate when teslas drive in front of me too. For one reason when they are one pedal driving or they are in autonomous driving, the brake lights never come on. So it leave a driver very hesitant about when to brake.
 
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I recently was sitting behind a Tesla in heavy traffic and as a driver behind-I absolutely hate it. The driver was using it. The car would jump to go forward and no sooner would the brakes stop it. So every time it happened I slammed on my brakes because it only moved 8”-12”.
After three rounds of that I forced myself into the other lane to get behind a logical stop and go driver. As I passed the driver was completely engaged on his phone. That all said I find it very annoying when following an enabled vehicle. I would be surprised if Teslas are getting rear ended because of the way the system operates
 
My Tesla does not do that nor does my Mercedes GLE or the BMW I had before the Mercedes. Not sure what you were experiencing. What you described sounds more like someone texting and not paying attention than the stop and go adaptive cruise features I’ve used on my cars. They are very graceful and safe.
 
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I hate when teslas drive in front of me too. For one reason when they are one pedal driving or they are in autonomous driving, the brake lights never come on. So it leave a driver very hesitant about when to brake.
Most EVs come with regenerative braking to get maximum distance and the Scout likely will too. Are you recommending that Scout should remove regenerative braking?
 
Most EVs come with regenerative braking to get maximum distance and the Scout likely will too. Are you recommending that Scout should remove regenerative braking?
No. Im just saying that for a safety standard brake lights should come on. If i was to unplug my tail lights i would get a ticket for it. And when you apply little pressure to a gas cars brake pedal the brake lights come on. So once regen come on the lights should turn on thats all
 
No. Im just saying that for a safety standard brake lights should come on. If i was to unplug my tail lights i would get a ticket for it. And when you apply little pressure the brake lights come on. So once regen come on the lights should turn on thats all
Agreed. They do come on “sometimes” but it’s unclear what level of deceleration / slowing triggers them. This needs to be addressed for all EVs.
 
Agreed. They do come on “sometimes” but it’s unclear what level of deceleration / slowing triggers them. This needs to be addressed for all EVs.
Regenerative braking is something that has always drawled my attention to EVs. Since it’s somewhat still a concept in EV technology since it’s always is being improved and it’s still a thing that is trying to be figured out on how it works an efficiently.

Being that I’m a mechanic I’ve always have brought up in trainings that the brake regulations on a Gas and EV should be the same “foot puts press on the brake pedals lights come on in a gas car, Foot press on pedal or EV motor takes kinetic energy back lights should come on since a rep of the company is usually there and they normally want feedback on new technology and such.
 
VW already has a decent suite of driver assist features. I suspect Rivan does as well. IMHO not offering existing tech this point is just throwing away sales. Developing tech is expensive. Implementing existing tech is not nearly as much. Throwing away existing tech - I just can not imagine that being a good business decision.

The production cost of adding modern driving assist features is a couple of sensors and some pre-written software. Sure, allow people to turn it off (a problem with my Ford - if a sensor is messed up, all cruise control is shut off) - but offer it, so you don't loose sales for virtually no reason at all other than stubbornness.

I have a couple of vehicles that were built before cruise control was standard. I have driven many thousands of miles without cruise control. I also know I utterly hate doing it anymore. Why would I not at least have the option of getting it's modern incarnation. I have a 2 vehicles with adaptive cruise - I like that as well. I am eagerly waiting for a vehicle with lane centering and more driving assists. I do lots of road trips - and I would like to arrive less stressed if possible. I doubt the Scout will be the perfect LONG road trip vehicle (just came back from a 2200 mile road trip - half of that towing a trailer), but for 500 mile trips - give me driver assist...
 
For those who want the tech-heavy approach, Rivian is already doing that. I’d hope to not pay extra for the development of a feature I’ll never use.
Rivian doesn't offer FSD, but you can opt turn on a feature called Driver+ and have a relaxing HWY drive, for example. Driver+ comes standard, and I would expect some form of Driver+ to be a standard feature in a Scout given the timeline for deliveries. You have to remember that many features of autonomous or semi-autonomous driving features are also SAFETY features. And, you don't have to use it if you don't want to use it.

https://rivian.com/support/article/what-features-are-included-in-rivian-driver

The only time I really engage Driver + is on longer road trips. I prefer to use it in more open or rural areas where there are fewer people and cars and less stuff to worry about around me. It works very well of course, BUT there is also an added benefit - which is efficiency. I often find my speeds creeping up while driving, so "the set it and forget it" aspect of Driver+ also helps me with range and efficiency over longer distances, where I just want to cruise and keep my speeds consistent.

Lastly - if the WX starts turning terrible, don't use it, or any system on any vehicle - eventually the sensors could be blocked and it will be disabled anyway (by snow or ice or mud) - for example.
 
Regenerative braking is something that has always drawled my attention to EVs. Since it’s somewhat still a concept in EV technology since it’s always is being improved and it’s still a thing that is trying to be figured out on how it works an efficiently.

Being that I’m a mechanic I’ve always have brought up in trainings that the brake regulations on a Gas and EV should be the same “foot puts press on the brake pedals lights come on in a gas car, Foot press on pedal or EV motor takes kinetic energy back lights should come on since a rep of the company is usually there and they normally want feedback on new technology and such.
Regen is really not that new, hybrids have been using it for at least 20 years.
 
Regen is really not that new, hybrids have been using it for at least 20 years.
regen first concept 1967 by AMC.

While widely used in electric and hybrid vehicles today, regenerative braking is still considered a "concept" because its full potential is not yet fully realized, particularly in terms of achieving optimal braking force in all driving situations, and because ongoing research is focused on improving its efficiency and effectiveness across different vehicle types and driving conditions.