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[Bodie]

Hard pass on that Jeep for me

 

[LastDayScout]

Hard pass on that Jeep for me

I wanted so badly to like this, but I don’t. The front end does not look good to me. The last Jeep I really liked was the WK2 generation Grand Cherokee. I really haven’t liked much since then. Scout…get this right!

 

[RebelliousPeasant]

I think the Recon looks interesting but my wife has forbidden any Stelantis products (we used to own a Chrysler and...yeah she's right) and also I wouldn't want to hear the endless moaning of Wrangler people. I have a friend with a Mach e and he just constantly hears "Mustang" people complaining his car isn't a "ReAl" Mustang and the "real mustangs" make noise and blah blah blah. Nevermind that his can beat pretty much any of theirs performance-wise but whatever. I fear it will be the same thing with Jeep people and I'd have to listen to "Wrangler" people constantly telling me it's not a "real" offroader because "real offroaders" have 17th century leaf springs and solid axles from tractors or whatever. Nevermind that the Wrangler is basically rated as a death trap by literally every crash test organization on earth and that modern technology has improved offroad capabilities and performance significantly whether Jeep people realize it or not.

Scout doesn't have to worry about that nonsense. Most people don't remember the brand and those that do all seem happy it's being reborn. I don't think the Scout will compete much with the R1S. Rivians are too expensive for us mere mortals. I will compete against the Recon and perhaps an electric Bronco if Ford gets around to making one. That's really the vehicle I'd be really concerned about if I were Scout, an electric Bronco.

 

[lefty]

I wanted so badly to like this, but I don’t. The front end does not look good to me. The last Jeep I really liked was the WK2 generation Grand Cherokee. I really haven’t liked much since then. Scout…get this right!

I agree with you, here @LastDayScout. It almost looks like a cross between an SUV and a minivan.
I think Jeep has generally done a nice job with their styling and capability(ies). I do think Scout has to worry about what Jeep is doing and would not underestimate. They have an immense brand following.

 

[LastDayScout]

I agree with you, here @LastDayScout. It almost looks like a cross between an SUV and a minivan.
I think Jeep has generally done a nice job with their styling and capability(ies). I do think Scout has to worry about what Jeep is doing and would not underestimate. They have an immense brand following.

I should throw in there I have owned and driven many Jeeps and I generally love them quirks and all. It’s just been kinda meh lately. The Recon could’ve been so awesome. And maybe it will be. But the concept seems half baked. But, I do agree this will the most immediate competition for Scout.

 

[IdahoJOAT]

I saw this article too and was dumb founded that they would risk it. The whole notion of subscription based “services” in vehicles is insulting. That BMW is thinking of heated seats as subscription is ridiculous.
Please don’t go subscription route on the new Scouts.

If they do... huge mistake.

People are fickle, especially so now in this day and age.

GM isn't risking, they're going to lose customers and money. And after the fiasco they put themselves in in the mid-00s you'd have thought they'd have learned... smh.

 

[IdahoJOAT]

This is a few weeks old, but I was looking closer at the pictures today. I also read the comments section. I know trolls will be trolls but not very good for Jeep. I am sure Scout is paying close attention as I think the Recon will be a closer competitor than Rivian R1S. Certainly if the price point comes in where as our thinks it will. Anyway, what do all of you think about the Recon???

Jeep shows off its Recon Moab 4xe electric vehicle concept to dealers [Images] — Electrek

Jeep is preparing to launch several new fully electric vehicles in the US within the next few years, including the Recon 4xe and Wagoneer S. The EV concepts were recently shown at a dealer’s conference for the first time in person. Check out the images below.

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I actually like it, for what it is.

Jeepers are, quite honestly, by and large brand loyal assholes. Especially the Wrangler lovers. And ESPECIALLY the 2-door lovers. Nothing will please them.

 

[IdahoJOAT]

Not an article reference but an idea for a media event. I think when Scout hits the 6 month mark-give or take and has 95% accurate prototypes for the media to experience-you should mix things up. I think you should invite the long term forum members to media day (at our cost-but throw in an assorted swag bag, let us drive and experience the new Scout and then allow the outside media to gather info from our perspectives as potential buyers.
This would allow us as the first round buyers to get the experience of driving them before we order, see exterior/interior color combos in person-rather than guessing if we like the colors and give your team final thoughts so maybe small changes/improvements could be made. It would give the journalists a different perspective to write - from the buyers/enthusiasts point of view rather than just a car critics point of view. Most of the articles from each company are always slightly slanted to their preference or everyone compares a vehicle’s performance to BMW. Imagine articles written from consumer input. Even if Scout had a form you fill out after your drive experience that is a 1-10 scale of 20 items then an area for a couple write-in personal thoughts (always some loose canon that will crap on everything so limit the space or sort them before the media gets them.
As someone who reads a lot of car news, I can always guess which magazines/news sources will like this, that or the other thing. What I’d often like in those articles is to hear what people like me think about a vehicle.
I own an Acura TLX type S. I don’t like BMW’s and didn’t need to spend $15K more for an equivalent set of features. I get tired of every BMW owner or journalist complain how the TLX doesn’t out perform the Bimmer. I’m fond of Japanese cars, didn’t want maintenance costs of a BMW and for my place in life, the Acura was the right fit. That said, if I would only have listened to journalists I might have made a decision I regretted. Point is-I’d like to hear what Scout enthusiasts think of the new vehicle-not the journalist who might have 0% connection to Scout but is being paid/comp’d to be there.
Just a thought. Maybe an east coast and west coast event-like DC/Virginia where your team is sorta based or SC near/at the new headquarters and maybe one near MOAB or Las Vegas for the west coast.
Just some crazy talk but figured I’d share.

@J Alynn , such a great idea. Oh man this gets me about as excited as seeing our Scout get built.

@[email protected] or @[email protected] , do we need to submit resumes for something like this or what?

 

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@J Alynn , such a great idea. Oh man this gets me about as excited as seeing our Scout get built.

@[email protected] or @[email protected] , do we need to submit resumes for something like this or what?

We are already ahead of you all on this one. Formulating and plotting is well underway. We really want our community involved...

 

[IdahoJOAT]

We are already ahead of you all on this one. Formulating and plotting is well underway. We really want our community involved...

You damn right! lol

 

[Harris005]

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