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I wanted so badly to like this, but I don’t. The front end does not look good to me. The last Jeep I really liked was the WK2 generation Grand Cherokee. I really haven’t liked much since then. Scout…get this right!
I think the Recon looks interesting but my wife has forbidden any Stelantis products (we used to own a Chrysler and...yeah she's right) and also I wouldn't want to hear the endless moaning of Wrangler people. I have a friend with a Mach e and he just constantly hears "Mustang" people complaining his car isn't a "ReAl" Mustang and the "real mustangs" make noise and blah blah blah. Nevermind that his can beat pretty much any of theirs performance-wise but whatever. I fear it will be the same thing with Jeep people and I'd have to listen to "Wrangler" people constantly telling me it's not a "real" offroader because "real offroaders" have 17th century leaf springs and solid axles from tractors or whatever. Nevermind that the Wrangler is basically rated as a death trap by literally every crash test organization on earth and that modern technology has improved offroad capabilities and performance significantly whether Jeep people realize it or not.
Scout doesn't have to worry about that nonsense. Most people don't remember the brand and those that do all seem happy it's being reborn. I don't think the Scout will compete much with the R1S. Rivians are too expensive for us mere mortals. I will compete against the Recon and perhaps an electric Bronco if Ford gets around to making one. That's really the vehicle I'd be really concerned about if I were Scout, an electric Bronco.
Scout doesn't have to worry about that nonsense. Most people don't remember the brand and those that do all seem happy it's being reborn. I don't think the Scout will compete much with the R1S. Rivians are too expensive for us mere mortals. I will compete against the Recon and perhaps an electric Bronco if Ford gets around to making one. That's really the vehicle I'd be really concerned about if I were Scout, an electric Bronco.
I agree with you, here @LastDayScout. It almost looks like a cross between an SUV and a minivan.
I think Jeep has generally done a nice job with their styling and capability(ies). I do think Scout has to worry about what Jeep is doing and would not underestimate. They have an immense brand following.
I should throw in there I have owned and driven many Jeeps and I generally love them quirks and all. It’s just been kinda meh lately. The Recon could’ve been so awesome. And maybe it will be. But the concept seems half baked. But, I do agree this will the most immediate competition for Scout.
If they do... huge mistake.
People are fickle, especially so now in this day and age.
GM isn't risking, they're going to lose customers and money. And after the fiasco they put themselves in in the mid-00s you'd have thought they'd have learned... smh.
I actually like it, for what it is.This is a few weeks old, but I was looking closer at the pictures today. I also read the comments section. I know trolls will be trolls but not very good for Jeep. I am sure Scout is paying close attention as I think the Recon will be a closer competitor than Rivian R1S. Certainly if the price point comes in where as our thinks it will. Anyway, what do all of you think about the Recon???
Jeep shows off its Recon Moab 4xe electric vehicle concept to dealers [Images] — Electrek
Jeep is preparing to launch several new fully electric vehicles in the US within the next few years, including the Recon 4xe and Wagoneer S. The EV concepts were recently shown at a dealer’s conference for the first time in person. Check out the images below.apple.news
Jeepers are, quite honestly, by and large brand loyal assholes. Especially the Wrangler lovers. And ESPECIALLY the 2-door lovers. Nothing will please them.
@J Alynn , such a great idea. Oh man this gets me about as excited as seeing our Scout get built.
@Chris@ScoutMotors or @Jamie@ScoutMotors , do we need to submit resumes for something like this or what?
@J Alynn , such a great idea. Oh man this gets me about as excited as seeing our Scout get built.
@Chris@ScoutMotors or @Jamie@ScoutMotors , do we need to submit resumes for something like this or what?
We are already ahead of you all on this one. Formulating and plotting is well underway. We really want our community involved...
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I’m throwing this link that was posted on the Bronco6G forum. I know this was just touched upon the other day in another thread regarding removing doors. Ironically this is the municipality I grew up in which cracked me up.
I guess cage/tube doors would be OK if supplied by Scout based on how the vehicular code reads in the post
I guess cage/tube doors would be OK if supplied by Scout based on how the vehicular code reads in the post
This article mentions the GX’s ladder frame being ready for EV. If Toyota brings this back to the USA in Prado form (as is being hinted) it will definitely be a Scout competitor.
apple.news
How the Lexus GX’s Ladder Frame Is Ready for Future EVs — The Drive
Don't be too surprised to see silent Lexus off-roaders on trails in the near future.
Just died laughing at one of the responses.I’m throwing this link that was posted on the Bronco6G forum. I know this was just touched upon the other day in another thread regarding removing doors. Ironically this is the municipality I grew up in which cracked me up.
I guess cage/tube doors would be OK if supplied by Scout based on how the vehicular code reads in the post
Paraphrased - “Tell the officer your vehicle identifies as a motorcycle and all is good”
If the new Scout prices out the same as the GX I’m sorry to say Scout missed the mark somewhere. Do really like the new design of the GX. Good mix of ruggedness and luxuryThis article mentions the GX’s ladder frame being ready for EV. If Toyota brings this back to the USA in Prado form (as is being hinted) it will definitely be a Scout competitor.
How the Lexus GX’s Ladder Frame Is Ready for Future EVs — The Drive
Don't be too surprised to see silent Lexus off-roaders on trails in the near future.
My point was that it seems increasingly likely that Toyota will bring back their version of this platform (Land Cruiser Prado) and it very well may have an EV version. A Land Cruiser Prado EV would be a direct competitor, not the luxury version Lexus GX.
Nice idea!
apple.news
Defeating range anxiety: Rooftop EV backup batteries — Innovation Origins
Ford has filed a patent for a roof-mounted backup battery system designed to extend electric vehicle (EV) range when chargers are scarce. The patent reveals a Bronco-like SUV with a roof rack resembling a conventional roof box containing the backup battery, which can be installed for trips and...
Goes back to idea of the Jerry cans. Maybe the scout gets a hitch rack on rear with 4-5 Jerry cans that connect together. Still think Jerry can battery range extender would be genius. Even if not feasible yet I think Scout should submit a patent to hold the ideaNice idea!
Defeating range anxiety: Rooftop EV backup batteries — Innovation Origins
Ford has filed a patent for a roof-mounted backup battery system designed to extend electric vehicle (EV) range when chargers are scarce. The patent reveals a Bronco-like SUV with a roof rack resembling a conventional roof box containing the backup battery, which can be installed for trips and...
Having driven electric vehicles for six years now I'd rather have faster charging than this sort of thing. Batteries are heavy and cumbersome. The amount of range you'd get from add-on batteries like that also likely wouldn't be enough to bother with, especially if your normal charge stops are under 20 mins. Plus you'd have to store and charge them when you aren't using them so you'd have these heavy, awkward things in your garage all the time. Nah, I'd rather have the vehicle just charge faster at a DCFC station than bother with modular add-on batteries. If I can get back to 80% in under 20 minutes and continue driving for another 3 hours or so then who cares if these batteries add another 50km or whatever. They'd just add weight (which reduces range) and take up space that could be used for actual gear. It's diminishing returns. Plus putting all the weight up high like that isn't a great idea for stability. It's just not worth it.Nice idea!
Defeating range anxiety: Rooftop EV backup batteries — Innovation Origins
Ford has filed a patent for a roof-mounted backup battery system designed to extend electric vehicle (EV) range when chargers are scarce. The patent reveals a Bronco-like SUV with a roof rack resembling a conventional roof box containing the backup battery, which can be installed for trips and...
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