Scout concepts on Jay Leno’s Garage

[cyure]

Everyone Jumps to conclusions and starts to drop their reservations, instead of saying it's still only in concept form, testing is still happening, R&D is still going on a lot could change in 1 1/2ish years.

Completely agree. I made my reservation in the first hour and those first dimensions that came out had the Traveler at 91 wide and honestly I freaked out. Everyone was saying as big as a Hummer. Thankfully I didn’t cancel and the updated dimensions were totally fine. I’m keeping my reservation until I can actually order one. Things change and at this point the only thing I think that could keep me from following through is if the price gets raised substantially. Other than that I’m all in. I have already named her. Ha!

 

[TigerEyeJazz]

Let's wait and see what the final tow numbers end up being. This is still fluid and the teams are still optimizing a number of things.

@chucchinchilla the current mules testing don't look like Audi Q6 e-trons. It is pretty hard to hide the big frame rails under anything VW Group makes (well except maybe the Crafter!).

Lastly, it is unfortunate that the concept vehicles are noisier than we like, but that is a direct result of the very basic drivetrain designed to move them on and off trucks and onto a show stand/display area. This isn't indicative of how our production vehicles will sound at all. Just to clarify.

Thanks Jamie for the update! Hope to see those prototype mules driving around.

 

[Jim Nichols]

I heard 7,000 towing for the Traveller SUV.

 

[dreamweaver]

I heard 7,000 towing for the Traveller SUV.

Yes. For the EV. 5,000 for the Harvester.

 

[dreamweaver]

Let's wait and see what the final tow numbers end up being. This is still fluid and the teams are still optimizing a number of things.

@chucchinchilla the current mules testing don't look like Audi Q6 e-trons. It is pretty hard to hide the big frame rails under anything VW Group makes (well except maybe the Crafter!).

Lastly, it is unfortunate that the concept vehicles are noisier than we like, but that is a direct result of the very basic drivetrain designed to move them on and off trucks and onto a show stand/display area. This isn't indicative of how our production vehicles will sound at all. Just to clarify.

I think anyone who has been around prototype vehicles knows this and won't judge based on that video. I worked for Ford Motor Company for 41 years and have been around a lot of prototypes, some had no powertrain; they were pushed on/off show room floors. The fact you could drive yours around was pretty cool. Big difference between prototype & mule.

 

[Hedrock]

Let's wait and see what the final tow numbers end up being. This is still fluid and the teams are still optimizing a number of things.

@chucchinchilla the current mules testing don't look like Audi Q6 e-trons. It is pretty hard to hide the big frame rails under anything VW Group makes (well except maybe the Crafter!).

Lastly, it is unfortunate that the concept vehicles are noisier than we like, but that is a direct result of the very basic drivetrain designed to move them on and off trucks and onto a show stand/display area. This isn't indicative of how our production vehicles will sound at all. Just to clarify.

RIP your notifications whenever new info drops lol.

I really do hope Scout can get the tow rating on Traveler Harvester up to 7k. That’s enough to tow a small camper or car hauler with a bit of margin for other cargo.

 

[Horsefarmer]

Let's wait and see what the final tow numbers end up being. This is still fluid and the teams are still optimizing a number of things.

@chucchinchilla the current mules testing don't look like Audi Q6 e-trons. It is pretty hard to hide the big frame rails under anything VW Group makes (well except maybe the Crafter!).

Lastly, it is unfortunate that the concept vehicles are noisier than we like, but that is a direct result of the very basic drivetrain designed to move them on and off trucks and onto a show stand/display area. This isn't indicative of how our production vehicles will sound at all. Just to clarify.

So is that a hint that test mules might be running around Europe disguised as VW Crafters or similar ? ( i.e., something the size of a Mercedes Sprinter or Ford Transit).

 

[dreamweaver]

So is that a hint that test mules might be running around Europe disguised as VW Crafters or similar ? ( i.e., something the size of a Mercedes Sprinter or Ford Transit).

That's what it sounded like to me as well wink, wink

 

[Horsefarmer]

That's what it sounded like to me as well wink, wink

Motorauthority.com is Europe based for auto news/photos

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

So is that a hint that test mules might be running around Europe disguised as VW Crafters or similar ? ( i.e., something the size of a Mercedes Sprinter or Ford Transit).

No, even the Crafter would be extreme. I don't believe we have any mules on public roads yet. Testing has been limited to proving grounds.

 

[Horsefarmer]

No, even the Crafter would be extreme. I don't believe we have any mules on public roads yet. Testing has been limited to proving grounds.

Ah darn! I’d be intrigued to see a Terra test mule under a Crafter body.

 

[Ajangel]

Alright, so I watched the video and yeah, the Traveler looks awesome rolling down the road. Love the design. And look, it's a prototype, so the road noise? Totally get it, they'll fix that before it hits showrooms.
Thing is, that Terra towing capacity? Major let down. Honestly, that's a dealbreaker for me. I don't tow cross-country or anything, but I definitely need to pull more than 5,000 pounds. So, looks like I'm gonna switch my reservation to the all-electric Terra instead. Sucks about the towing, but still psyched about the truck overall.
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[bb00799]

Alright, so I watched the video and yeah, the Traveler looks awesome rolling down the road. Love the design. And look, it's a prototype, so the road noise? Totally get it, they'll fix that before it hits showrooms.
Thing is, that Terra towing capacity? Major let down. Honestly, that's a dealbreaker for me. I don't tow cross-country or anything, but I definitely need to pull more than 5,000 pounds. So, looks like I'm gonna switch my reservation to the all-electric Terra instead. Sucks about the towing, but still psyched about the truck overall.
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I think the EREV Terra will be able to beat the EREV Traveler, so I would wait until that is specifically characterized. Because the 2k drop that we now know in the Traveler should only result in a ~7k towing for the Terra. But again we just need to have a definitive engineering answer, rather then answers that are not set in stone yet

 

[Tyler88]

When they mentioned the 5k towing with the Harvester he was talking about the Traveller, I don't think he meant for both so I would expect the Terra with the Harvester to have more towing then the Traveller with the Harvester. I think it needs to be clarified more in the future and it will. Though, I don't really care about towing that much since I am coming from a Wrangler with a 2.5k lb towing limit so 5k towing is still a big upgrade. Also I am happy with the use of an LFP battery for the harvester models so maybe the harvester models and the pure EVs will start either at the same or close to the same price.

 

[THil08]

No, even the Crafter would be extreme. I don't believe we have any mules on public roads yet. Testing has been limited to proving grounds.

I heard its being tested on VW Type82 Kubelwagen platform from the graveyard of antiques. LMAO!!

 

[dleepnw]

Great video. Glad to hear more nuggets of info. Here are the highlights for me:

• 800v architecture
• Charging up to 350kW
• Range extender battery: LFP
• 240v outlet (really hoping its at least 30-40 amps)
• Vehicle will charge while parked using the gas engine
• Designed with repairability ease/cost in mind

 

[OleScout]

Just catching wind of this video, thing I love the most is how giddy Scott showcasing these vehicles. Just two car dudes enjoying the ride along!

 

[Derek]

This was like the 10th thing the company has shared that makes me love the decisions they're making. For those dissapointed at a 5k tow capacity on the Harvester Traveler, two things to consider

1. The original Scout 2 could never comfortable tow that much at highway speeds. Even just around the yard, I pulled a 5k camper and it was heck! Plenty of power, but the chassis dynamics were garbage for heavy haul. That said, our family built and ran two businesses for two decades on the back of a Scout 2, towing a 2-3K trailer. I think 5K gets you a small travel trailer and realitically will be good enough for almost everyone. I do hope the Terra can tow a little more. I suspect this rating is based on the fact that while towing, you need the battery and harvester power to make any kind of decent range and the harvester wouldn't keep up while towing 7k at highway.

2. Capability=Cost. These forums are full of people warning the company not to get to high on the price, I think they are planning an AMAZINGLY capable vehicle for even 20K more than they're planning to charge, but there is a limit to how much batter/engine/features you can provide for a dollar. If the trade off is that the limit is reduced 2K, I think that's a great trade off.

Honestly, most people buying a 1/2 ton SUV should not be pulling more that 5,000 lbs over the roads. If you are, you should already be in a a 3/4 ton something.

I pulled a 5,100 lb travel trailer with a gas 1/2 ton SUV rated for 7,300 and it was "fine", but I would NOT have wanted to actually pull something weighing another ton behind that 5.3 engine. I bought a 1 ton diesel fo the heavy trailering, but 5,000lb is awesome for adventure camping, hauling a utility trailer, hauling a trailer with landscaping equipment/etc.

 

[N Wilson]

This was like the 10th thing the company has shared that makes me love the decisions they're making. For those dissapointed at a 5k tow capacity on the Harvester Traveler, two things to consider

1. The original Scout 2 could never comfortable tow that much at highway speeds. Even just around the yard, I pulled a 5k camper and it was heck! Plenty of power, but the chassis dynamics were garbage for heavy haul. That said, our family built and ran two businesses for two decades on the back of a Scout 2, towing a 2-3K trailer. I think 5K gets you a small travel trailer and realitically will be good enough for almost everyone. I do hope the Terra can tow a little more. I suspect this rating is based on the fact that while towing, you need the battery and harvester power to make any kind of decent range and the harvester wouldn't keep up while towing 7k at highway.

2. Capability=Cost. These forums are full of people warning the company not to get to high on the price, I think they are planning an AMAZINGLY capable vehicle for even 20K more than they're planning to charge, but there is a limit to how much batter/engine/features you can provide for a dollar. If the trade off is that the limit is reduced 2K, I think that's a great trade off.

Honestly, most people buying a 1/2 ton SUV should not be pulling more that 5,000 lbs over the roads. If you are, you should already be in a a 3/4 ton something.

I pulled a 5,100 lb travel trailer with a gas 1/2 ton SUV rated for 7,300 and it was "fine", but I would NOT have wanted to actually pull something weighing another ton behind that 5.3 engine. I bought a 1 ton diesel fo the heavy trailering, but 5,000lb is awesome for adventure camping, hauling a utility trailer, hauling a trailer with landscaping equipment/etc.

^^^This

Excellent points. Very well said.

 

[J Alynn]

So nice seeing it move under its own power. People in the comments seem to not understand that the powertrain in the concept is small and its used to move it around on and off the car hauler. They all are complaining about the gear whine. It looked like it was still hauling ass on that roadway probably at-least 35-50 mph

I think it was noted at reveal that battery was good for about 35 mph but not for long so guessing Jay put it through its paces