Missing DOT Clearance & Identification lights

[jstrickland]

If the production versions of the Terra and Traveler are going to maintain the currently listed dimensions why did the designers seemingly elect to leave off the DOT mandated clearance and identification lights from the front & rear roof lines of both vehicles? They'll have to be implemented in the production versions in order to be street legal.

 

[prattm1964]

Clearance lights on front and rear roof line? Please explain.

 

[Lupercal! Lupercal!]

Clearance lights on front and rear roof line? Please explain.

Vehicles of a certain width on the road must have marker lights, think the lights on the front of a ford raptor or dually truck. A raptor is around 80 inches wide and this is even wider than that, so it should have the marker lights as well, honestly i expected this to be around the size of a bronco/wrangler but its closer to a tahoe

 

[Wmcgregs]

Wow, I didn't realize how wide this is, I feel like there's no way its almost 12" wider than a Raptor (excluding mirrors, and it looks like Mirrors don't stick out past the wheel wells on the Scout. I hope it is that massive, I'm all about that, but I doubt it. Even 1 ton pick ups only go to about 82"

Raptor is 79.8" width (excluding mirrors) - see below

I'm praying that these dimensions stay exactly the same. I don't want a mid-sized truck and the American truck market prefers bigger.

Here is the F150 Raptor Dimensions:

 

[Mousehunter]

The only roof lights my F250 has is the third brake light. The only side clearance lights are part of the headlight an taillight assemblies. I think I see the 3rd tail light and side lights on the Traveler. The 3rd tail light is built into the air damn.

 

[jstrickland]

The only roof lights my F250 has is the third brake light. The only side clearance lights are part of the headlight an taillight assemblies. I think I see the 3rd tail light and side lights on the Traveler. The 3rd tail light is built into the air damn.

How wide is your F250? The front and rear three light clusters are only on trucks that are wider than 80 inches.

I went back and looked again at the Reveal Event video, and at the 38:11 mark the Traveler is driving at night and the front three amber identification lights aren't anywhere on the front. Could Scout change three portions of the white LED outline amber and comply with the federal regulation? I don't know. Based on the other vehicles below the front identification lights seem to be distinct from the other lighting.

At the 18:03 mark when both are on the turntable, the Terra's rear lights are lit and there's no sign of the rear cluster of three red lights. Since the Traveler could be equipped with the spare tire mount, Scout is probably going to opt to go high with its rear red three light cluster.

What was revealed Thursday were the preproduction models and there's probably 12 - 18 months before the production versions are finalized, so we may not find out where they'll finally be placed on the Terra and Traveler until then.

Sharing pics so folks can compare light placement on three 80"+ wide vehicles currently on the roads.
When I wrote the initial post I was only thinking of the Hummer EV, which has the three amber lights along its front roof line and the three red lights along its rear roof line. [PHOTO CREDIT: Motor Trend]

For an F-150 Raptor the front three amber lights are grouped together above the grill, under the hood. On the back the three red light cluster is near the roof line. Seems they may double as the third taillight? I don't know. [PHOTO CREDIT: Motor Trend]

On a RAM TRX the front amber lights are in the air intake on the hood. On the rear, I'll admit I'm a little surprised the three red lights are subtly placed above the license plate and are distinct from its third taillight. I thought the three lights had to be more visible and prominent, but maybe the federal requirement is more strict for semis. [PHOTO CREDIT: Motor Trend]

The light clusters may detract from the look Scout is striving for, but if the final production models maintain that 91" width they'll need those lights to be street legal. It'll be interesting to see how Scout ends up incorporating them into the designs.

 

[Mousehunter]

Tried to research it, tried to measure my truck. Apparently it was a rare issue before the current generation of super wide trucks - as dually's were about the only ones that required them. The measurement is taken w/o mirrors - and the manufacturers kept the 3/4 ton's just under 80" with stock tires. With my mirrors (which are probably retracted at the moment - but not folded), my truck is roughly 99" from edge to edge of the mirrors).

It confuses things when you deal with definitions. Some people call the side lights (rather than the traditionally roof lights) clearance lights. It also further confuses things when the new generation of super wide trucks are not putting them on the roof anymore.

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

So our dimensions seem to include mirrors - they do, in fact, stick out past the sheet metal despite what is shown in the graphic.

Working with our product and digital teams to clarify and make any corrections.

 

[Mousehunter]

Saw on another forum that a Scout employee confirmed that the body width (without mirrors) is 79.9".

 

[J Alynn]

Saw on another forum that a Scout employee confirmed that the body width (without mirrors) is 79.9".

@Jamie@ScoutMotors confirmwd this earlier on this forum as well. Don’t recall the thread as there are 100’s of new ones over last 16 hours

 

[Jamie@ScoutMotors]

Correct. 79.9" width minus mirrors.