EREV -> BEV switchover path

[Amadeus]

Hope this hasn't already been suggested but I did a cursory search and didn't see it anywhere. If it's a duplicate suggestion, sorry!

I'd like to see Scout design for EREV to BEV aftermarket switchover - doesn't have to necessarily be cheap, but should be possible without just trashing the vehicle and starting over.

I've gone back and forth on whether to get the EREV or BEV. For now, I settled on the EREV because the places I like to go don't have viable EV charging infrastructure. But that could change by 2027... or 2032... or 2037. I'd like to be able to change from the EREV to BEV if that makes sense at some future time.

I tend to keep cars a long time. I've done major overhaul work on my 2015 XTerra and will probably keep repairing it until the Traveler ships rather than buying something new (or new to me). Maybe I'm weird, but I'd hope to keep the Traveler for at least as long.

Thanks for the consideration!

 

[Logan]

Hope this hasn't already been suggested but I did a cursory search and didn't see it anywhere. If it's a duplicate suggestion, sorry!

I'd like to see Scout design for EREV to BEV aftermarket switchover - doesn't have to necessarily be cheap, but should be possible without just trashing the vehicle and starting over.

I've gone back and forth on whether to get the EREV or BEV. For now, I settled on the EREV because the places I like to go don't have viable EV charging infrastructure. But that could change by 2027. Or by 2032. Or 2037. I'd like to be able to change from the EREV to BEV if that makes sense from an infrastructure point of view.

I tend to keep cars a long time. I've done major overhaul work on my 2015 XTerra and will probably keep repairing it until the Traveller ships rather than buying something new (or new to me). Maybe I'm weird, but I'd hope to keep the Traveler for at least as long.

Thanks for the consideration!

I actually suggested the exact same thing in a different thread earlier today, so you are not alone! And this one not being buried/on its own is likely easier to find for them, so thanks.

My daily driver is a 1997 ZJ, so I definitely understand keeping a vehicle for a long time .

My wish is for there to be an ability (ie, it’s designed with this functionality in mind) to upgrade battery packs (particularly with solid state batteries feeling increasingly “just around the corner”), or to replace the harvester option with more batteries in the future as batteries improve and charging infrastructure becomes more ubiquitous.

A “Harvester replacement module” that a service center can throw in (I’m not sure I’d want to mess with high voltage stuff myself???) somewhere in the 5-15years down the line timeframe would be great. Or even just a “solid state battery upgrade pack” when the original pack is tired and degraded.

 

[oldgeeksguide]

Hope this hasn't already been suggested but I did a cursory search and didn't see it anywhere. If it's a duplicate suggestion, sorry!

I'd like to see Scout design for EREV to BEV aftermarket switchover - doesn't have to necessarily be cheap, but should be possible without just trashing the vehicle and starting over.

I've gone back and forth on whether to get the EREV or BEV. For now, I settled on the EREV because the places I like to go don't have viable EV charging infrastructure. But that could change by 2027... or 2032... or 2037. I'd like to be able to change from the EREV to BEV if that makes sense at some future time.

I tend to keep cars a long time. I've done major overhaul work on my 2015 XTerra and will probably keep repairing it until the Traveler ships rather than buying something new (or new to me). Maybe I'm weird, but I'd hope to keep the Traveler for at least as long.

Thanks for the consideration!

I don’t know if they’ll consider it feasible, but that’d be pretty cool. After 5 or 10 years of ownership, the landscape may have changed quite a bit so one doesn’t need the harvester anymore.

 

[RebelliousPeasant]

Having owned a PHEV in the past, I can say from experience that you won't be using the gasoline range extender nearly as much as you probably think you will. Personally I've ordered a pure-EV Traveler for a few reasons.

For one, a gas engine introduces several points of failure and requires mandatory and frequent maintenance and upkeep. Another problem with gas engines in a mostly electric vehicle is that they tend to get used infrequently and when they are used they typically don't run long enough or get hot enough to burn off all the crud that's produced from combusting petrochemicals. So the oil gets contaminated with water vapour and other junk that normally gets burnt off in a gas car and the oil starts to become acidic and needs to be changed frequently regardless of how far you've drive on the engine. So they require a lot of upkeep which is both annoying and expensive.

The fuel also has a habit of going bad in the tank after a while so most PHEVs and EREVs have a method of burning it off after a certain amount of time or usage cycles. This is also expensive and annoying because now your EV turned itself into a gas vehicle for a certain amount of time until the bad fuel (which you paid a lot for!) is burnt off 'just because'.

Plus there's all the noise and vibration and general unpleasantness of a running gas engine. Trust me, once you get used to the smooth quiet of an EV, a gas engine randomly coming to life under the trunk will feel obnoxious. After months of driving in pure-electric mode in our PHEV we would actually forget about the gas engine and when it did randomly come on we would often think there was something wrong with the vehicle until we realized it was just the gas motor running again (usually to burn off old gas).

So I went with the mechanically simpler, likely more reliable, and definitely cheaper to run pure electric version. Were I live I'm never more than 100 km from a fast charger and by 2027 I'm sure there will be even more locations. Charging infrastructure is already pretty good in most of North America and with new companies like Ionna coming to market it will only get better in the next three years. By the time these trucks launch I wouldn't be surprised if the number of chargers in NA would have doubled or even tripled from what we have today.