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Please consider your vehicle’s heritage! How about a naturally aspirated small V8 mated to a 4-6-speed manual transmission? You wouldn’t be able to make them fast enough! Electric is NOT in keeping with the IH tradition! Stand apart from what everyone else is doing! Electric has no future!
 
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As much as I would like a V8 if I wanted that I would go get a Wrangler 392 its not manual but you get paddle shifters at least. But I realistically don't want to get 7 mpg and have to buy premium fuel. The whole point of the Scout with the harvester is to daily in EV mode and then use the extender on trip or if you have to tow and for what I need a vehicle to do the Scout with the harvester looks like it will check the most boxes for me. I mean if Scout is successful in the future maybe they will borrow a V8 from Porsche in put it in a model anything is a possibility in the future.
 
I love v8’s. I have family that have been drag racing at all levels (uncle was crew chief of a top fuel team after racing decades of too alcohol, cousin was multi time national pro comp champion, multi time super stock and stock national champion, and multi-time jr drag national champion). And I’ve got a Hemi piston and connecting rod on my desk, and the windows startup sound in my desktop computer in college was from a 351 Windsor :D.

All that said, I don’t think they have any plans for a pure gas version. This is a modern rethink, and was originally going to be EV only. They added the harvester option relatively late in the process, and obviously that has been a huge success, and was a great idea.

And personally, I’m excited about it BECAUSE it is a EREV/EV. I love the idea of having the ability to be an EV around town, yet gas on long trips. I love the idea of being able to power my home during a power outage, and funny as it sounds, love the idea of a useful frunk.

If they add an all gas one, it would be much later, as they’d have to heavily redesign the vehicle (the gas engine is currently under the bed/by the rear axle…). I wouldn’t say never, but, I’d be surprised if it happened, and if it happened, it would likely be years after the initial release.
 
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My concern is the missed opportunity! There is SO much information available regarding the harm to the environment from EV’s, both from the battery material procurement process and then using Coal to power the charging of them. I think that the vast majority of people interested in purchasing EV’s already have done so and many these folks regret their decision. A small diesel would be an AWESOME option! There are gas V8’s that get great mileage! The simple, utilitarian heritage of the Scout would a great selling point! Making a vehicle that customers can work on themselves would a breath of fresh air and AGAIN a great selling point! Thinking outside the box literally means getting out of the box. I TRULY BELIEVE EV’s are going away!
 
When you consider science and understand the data more clearly, and once you can understand the bigger picture related to drilling, refining, transporting, burning fuel (and the severe impact that has on the earth, our water & the atmosphere), you will see that the non-truths and dis-information campaigns run primarily by the O&G lobby and those with financial concerns traced to some of the world's worst polluters are based on fear instead of facts. Most people here understand this and can help. If you truly believe EV's are going away, you are again refuting the data.

Part of the move toward cleaner energy is simply to drive down pollutants and ensure that ALL Americans have clean drinking water free from toxins and that we aren't getting cancer from benzene, toluene, ethylbenzene, and xylene - all of which are TOXIC pollutants that ruin our air quality - all of which come from refining oil. EV's (and EREV's) in this case are beneficiaries of clean air and clean water legislation. This is something that we as outdoors people appreciate.
 
Please consider your vehicle’s heritage! How about a naturally aspirated small V8 mated to a 4-6-speed manual transmission? You wouldn’t be able to make them fast enough! Electric is NOT in keeping with the IH tradition! Stand apart from what everyone else is doing! Electric has no future!

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On the contrary.

The future is clearly one of rising EV sales and declining ICE sales.

Which is why there have been so many new EV car companies trying to cash it on the future trend. Many will fail but some are already successful and some have a good chance (Tesla, Rivian, Lucid). Scout Motors could be another.

I'll wait while you list the new ICE car companies in recent decades...
 
Please consider your vehicle’s heritage! How about a naturally aspirated small V8 mated to a 4-6-speed manual transmission? You wouldn’t be able to make them fast enough! Electric is NOT in keeping with the IH tradition! Stand apart from what everyone else is doing! Electric has no future!

South Dakota has embraced renewable energy and I would think that EV's may have a future in the state.....
 
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My concern is the missed opportunity! There is SO much information available regarding the harm to the environment from EV’s, both from the battery material procurement process and then using Coal to power the charging of them. I think that the vast majority of people interested in purchasing EV’s already have done so and many these folks regret their decision. A small diesel would be an AWESOME option! There are gas V8’s that get great mileage! The simple, utilitarian heritage of the Scout would a great selling point! Making a vehicle that customers can work on themselves would a breath of fresh air and AGAIN a great selling point! Thinking outside the box literally means getting out of the box. I TRULY BELIEVE EV’s are going away!
Been the owner of fire breathing gas burning V8’s most my life. Swore the EV movement was ridiculous (Cyber Truck proves that point). Watched the Scout reveal and thought it was a neat EV, but nothing I’d ever buy. Then near the end they drop the Harvester bomb. So now here I sit with a Scout Traveler Harvester reservation. I’m not getting rid of the TRX, but I am looking forward to dipping my toes into the EV world.
 
Please consider your vehicle’s heritage! How about a naturally aspirated small V8 mated to a 4-6-speed manual transmission? You wouldn’t be able to make them fast enough! Electric is NOT in keeping with the IH tradition! Stand apart from what everyone else is doing! Electric has no future!
Why do people like you waste your time typing. If this is so critical to you all where were you two years ago when the forum started. Apparently Scouts heritage isn’t as important as you imply. Nobody wanting a daily driver wants an aging dinosaur of an engine. Go irritate another forum!!!
 
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My concern is the missed opportunity! There is SO much information available regarding the harm to the environment from EV’s, both from the battery material procurement process and then using Coal to power the charging of them. I think that the vast majority of people interested in purchasing EV’s already have done so and many these folks regret their decision. A small diesel would be an AWESOME option! There are gas V8’s that get great mileage! The simple, utilitarian heritage of the Scout would a great selling point! Making a vehicle that customers can work on themselves would a breath of fresh air and AGAIN a great selling point! Thinking outside the box literally means getting out of the box. I TRULY BELIEVE EV’s are going away!
You misspelled “misinformation”. There is a whole lot of nonsense and anti-EV propaganda out there to try and convince people to stick to the status quo (because a few people make a LOT of money off you continually buying oil and gas).

If you do any serious research though you quickly discover just how dumb and nonsensical the anti-EV myths really are. Keep an open mind.
 
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:rolleyes:

On the contrary.

The future is clearly one of rising EV sales and declining ICE sales.

Which is why there have been so many new EV car companies trying to cash it on the future trend. Many will fail but some are already successful and some have a good chance (Tesla, Rivian, Lucid). Scout Motors could be another.

I'll wait while you list the new ICE car companies in recent decades...
To that point ICE sales peaked in 2017 and have been declining ever since. ALL the growth in the industry since 2017 has been from plug-in vehicles.
 
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