I see Chevy is now selling the Silverado EV. How many do you think they will sell with prices starting at ~$97,500? Fingers crossed that Scout will be at a reasonable price point 
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Very few and tax credit still doesn’t get the price down for majority of buyers. Thats crazy pricing.I see Chevy is now selling the Silverado EV. How many do you think they will sell with prices starting at ~$97,500? Fingers crossed that Scout will be at a reasonable price point
We had a deposit on the GMC Denali version and the way we want it is $133.000 OTD.
The blush wore off real quick and we declined.
Nice vehicles and we love EV's but don't want to drop that kinda money on one.
At this time can only be ordered with a lot of expensive options we didn't want.
The cheaper models will have less batteries and less power.
I remember when the only options were a V8 and a radio.
The blush wore off real quick and we declined.
Nice vehicles and we love EV's but don't want to drop that kinda money on one.
At this time can only be ordered with a lot of expensive options we didn't want.
The cheaper models will have less batteries and less power.
I remember when the only options were a V8 and a radio.
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They have been selling (or attempting to sell) these for months. To date, I have only seen 2 on the road in the last year. It is not a very good looking vehicle, and for similar reason to the Cybertruck, I'm sure a lot of traditional truck owners aren't loving the avalanche-style rear end over the bed. It has excellent range (when looking at their "estimate"), and the bed will hold a ton more than my Rivian with the pass-through... BUT that said, it feels a lot like the F150 Lightening. Like someone at Chevy forced someone on the EV team to build it... To use the existing framework and make an EV truck work without starting 100% from scratch... Then -> Slap a high price tag on it, and try not to sell too many... Sorry, I ain't buying one of them... And that is coming from a guy that traded a Silverado for a Rivian R1T.
This is what makes the Scout way more exciting... Starting from scratch. Not having to compete within Scout against an ICE variant. All good things for Scout IMHO.
This is what makes the Scout way more exciting... Starting from scratch. Not having to compete within Scout against an ICE variant. All good things for Scout IMHO.
I hope at least one Scout version is equipped with insane power and monster brakes like the upcoming Blazer EV SS.
Monster brakes can be less appealing to the hard-core off-roader crowd, as they may dictate larger wheel sizes to surround the larger caliper dimension. Many off-roaders will want a smaller wheel and larger tire, for obvious reasons. I have decent sized calipers. I can only run down to a 20, but nothing smaller on my R1T. I don't actually need anything smaller in my case, but it has been a complaint from some. Also, with regen, I don't use my brakes enough. I actually need to work them out in a vacant lot with hard stops once a month to keep them in their best state. As for power... Insane power, translated to "instantaneous torque on demand" will likely be insane in the Scout.
EVs with more power have more brakes. With their serious weights and extra power it's essential. Off Road capable or not.
I have a lot of off road vehicles and their is never enough brakes.
The most powerful Tesla S Plaid was delayed from production waiting for more brake power to be developed.
The most powerful Kia EV6 has way more brakes than the one step down Wind version.
The Chevy Blazer EV SS has Brembo's.
All the above performance versions.
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Many people find the EV regen braking causes car sickness for them or their passengers, so they don't use it and rely on brakes only. The 0-60 in under 3 second EVs especially with their hefty weights need big brakes whether they are off road capable or not.
Even a vanilla $50,000 EV will do 0-60 in under 5 sec. Most trims of the Mach-e do so and one version will match the high performance Rivian R1 at 3.5 seconds
At the cheap end a Chevy Bolt can run it in 6.5 about the same as a 1968 Shelby Mustang
But seriously just how fast do we need to get to "fast" while still maintaining control or avoiding slower drivers
At the cheap end a Chevy Bolt can run it in 6.5 about the same as a 1968 Shelby Mustang
But seriously just how fast do we need to get to "fast" while still maintaining control or avoiding slower drivers
Especially in an SUV. I’d say higher center of gravity is scary but batteries will at least throw more weight down low to help mitigate the SUV rolling the first time somebody launches it into a 60 degree bend in the road.
Well, my R1T seems to have way more than enough braking power, AND you cannot "Turn Off" regen in the R1T and not use it, so some of your assumptions may not apply to all truck here. Also, the combination of regen + braking is really quite powerful, and as mentioned, I barely use the brakes... I have not had anyone get sick from regen usage in my truck either, so implementation will vary.
You can turn it off in the ev6 Teslas and the Blazer EV and adjust the level of regen.
Makes some people car sick so a good set of brakes is essential.
You don’t want to hear that.
Having good brakes has nothing to do with people getting car sick. It is how you drive. You can making adjustments for this based on preference in some trucks by either A). Adjusting your settings to lower regen if you feel like you would benefit from a longer deceleration curve, or B). simply adjust your driving style. Different vehicles (ICE or EV) can have very different throttle characteristics or pedal sensitivities or options in their settings! Making assumptions based on other vehicles and assuming that they are all the same is not helping anyone. We do not yet know how the Scout's regen will be implemented, not do we know if you will be able to turn it all the way off, or just lower regen.
Yes, it’s not regen vs physical braking that causes motion sickness, it’s one pedal driving. You end up having to be very careful modulating the gas pedal, which is a real pain. You can get the same effect driving a manual in first gear. That’s why I like regen paddles like Kia/Hyundai have, it allows very easy adjustment of regen. Also good blended braking so you can brake with the brake pedal the way god intended
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Well said.Yes, it’s not regen vs physical braking that causes motion sickness, it’s one pedal driving. You end up having to be very careful modulating the gas pedal, which is a real pain. You can get the same effect driving a manual in first gear. That’s why I like regen paddles like Kia/Hyundai have, it allows very easy adjustment of regen. Also good blended braking so you can brake with the brake pedal the way god intended
When the Tesla Forums first appeared and in the auto enthusiasts forums questions were asked how to reduce or turn off the Tesla regen. Carsickness was the reason.
Tesla means stepping thru menus on a tablet screen and with ZERO customer service has confused, new to all this people asking. Answers from forum members came quick, many experienced the same.
We have 3 levels of regen on our EV6, operated with paddles and I really like regen. The wife and one of the daughters absolutely hates regen at any level. Our 2001 Golf cart has it BTW.
Northbound I15 10 mile downgrade before Primm Nevada, gained 3 miles range using Regen alone.
You find some members in forums have to always be right and everyone else is always wrong.
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Teslas have one pedal driving on by default which I would argue is the real issue. The car sickness has nothing to do with the regen and everything to do with the abilities of the driver. Regen can be strong, yes, but it can also feel indistinguishable from friction brakes. Your anecdotal "evidence" doesn't hold up to scrutiny and there is no actual evidence that 'regen causes motion sickness', how could it? It's just another way to slow a vehicle down, the forces are the same. The way one drives is what causes motion sickness and that is true for any vehicle whether EV or ICE. To say it's due to regen is ridiculous and untrue. The issue you are raising has more to do with Tesla's 'always on' one-pedal driving and the fact that it takes a while to get used to than anything to do with how the car actually slows down. Perhaps you are confusing "regenerative braking" with "one-pedal driving"? They are not the same thing. Regenerative braking just means the motors slow the vehicle down instead of the friction brakes. It's just a different mechanism to get the same effect. The forces are fundamentally the same.
I’ve had two Teslas and now a iX and utilize one pedal driving as often as possible. What can be an issue is the rough transition between driver assist/cruise control back to full driver control. The regen can be a bit aggressive and my family doesn’t like that. So, I’ve practiced more and found that if I deactivate driver assist with the button on the steering wheel instead of touching the brake first it does not do the aggressive slow down. Also, the BMW does not “phantom brake” like the two Teslas.
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