Bourgeoisie leather seating please! ;-)

[Scout_iii]

Firstly, big shout out to Scott, Chris and all the Scout team. Absolutely gorgeous exterior and interior designs that have been revealed thus far.

The interior looks stunning! As a driver/passenger we only see the interior most of the time, and the Scout looks like it’ll be a very pleasant experience.

I’m really hoping some quality non-perforated leather seating will be offered as an option, ideally in some two-tone colors similar to the reveal vehicles.

I know there have been many requests for ‘washable’ or ‘cloth’ interior materials, but based on my experiences with my 4Runner and Land Cruiser, quality leather is a great option for day to day life.

Leather is easy to wipe down or vacuum when it gets dusty, pet fur does not get caught in leather, and food spills are not a problem if leather is cleaned promptly (we just keep beach towels handy when we’re planning on doing something outdoorsy).

 

[Scoutsie]

How bougie are we talking? Are we talking Coach pebble leather from this past season or recycled Birkin bags?

 

[dleepnw]

I would love a genuine leather option. Vegan leather is a great alternative and should be offered as well but for those who want real leather, please consider making it available.

 

[Scout_iii]

I would love a genuine leather option. Vegan leather is a great alternative and should be offered as well but for those who want real leather, please consider making it available.

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Agreed. Vegan leather has some major drawbacks (either totally synthetic and/or not durable), and being realistic until people stop eating hamburgers there’s going to be a source for real leather…

My 3rd Gen 4Runner has 240k miles and only noticeable wear is slight creasing on driver seat cushion where you slide in and out of door. Same for my LX45O (80-series Land Cruiser) with 180k. My A7 TDI has perforated leather (presumably for the fairly useless seat cooling function - basically a fan built into the seat) and while it’s looking ok at 55k I don’t have same confidence it will hold up like my old A6 Avant did with non-perforated leather (it was at 120k when I sold it, and interior was immaculate).

 

[OIBScout]

Look at VW Audi leather for something that wears exceptionally well.

I will take a hard pass on a car with rubbish seat materials. Conversation over. Cloth seats invariably get stained and look like trash. Tech fabrics need 50,000 cycle testing

My buddy bought a King Ranch with some sexy distressed rust leather in it that looked like grease stained chamois cloth within two years of buying it.

Whatever Chevy GM does, do the opposite, their interiors are trash.

 

[Scout_iii]

Look at VW Audi leather for something that wears exceptionally well.

I will take a hard pass on a car with rubbish seat materials. Conversation over. Cloth seats invariably get stained and look like trash. Tech fabrics need 50,000 cycle testing

My buddy bought a King Ranch with some sexy distressed rust leather in it that looked like grease stained chamois cloth within two years of buying it.

Whatever Chevy GM does, do the opposite, their interiors are trash.

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Yes, Toyota or Audi leather would good comparisons.

 

[Scout_iii]

I would love a genuine leather option. Vegan leather is a great alternative and should be offered as well but for those who want real leather, please consider making it available.

Please hit the vote button if not done already… look for orange ^ symbol with number near top of post.

 

[Scout_iii]

How bougie are we talking? Are we talking Coach pebble leather from this past season or recycled Birkin bags?

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I was thinking Connolly leather. But really based on my experience whatever Toyota or Audi use.

 

[J Alynn]

Stay away from Honda/Acura. They look great and they are soft but the bolsters look beat to death within 2-4 years from sliding in and out over them.

 

[eddiet1212]

Stay away from Honda/Acura. They look great and they are soft but the bolsters look beat to death within 2-4 years from sliding in and out over them.

Lexus leather is nice. Owned a GX for 13 years and the Lexus leather was durable for it's type....

 

[KarlT]

What’s wrong with perforated? Spills?

 

[Scout_iii]

What’s wrong with perforated? Spills?

Yes that, and dust/sand, and dog fur, and just the idea that each perforation is potential place for something to catch and cause a rip.

 

[TimmyHil08]

Stay away from Honda/Acura. They look great and they are soft but the bolsters look beat to death within 2-4 years from sliding in and out over them.

Same with BMW. Unless it’s the real leather it sucks.

 

[TimmyHil08]

What’s wrong with perforated? Spills?

Nothing is wrong with them. My 2019 Countryman has perforated seats, spills they are fine with, dog fur doesn’t hurt them, etc.

 

[Mousehunter]

My King Ranch leather is holding up well - but I have seen other (older) that did not. I wish my dash was holding up as well (it is cracking all over). My Toyota leather is not looking so great. VW leather is probably holding up the best.

I don't really care about vegan. I knew plenty of vegan's long ago - and virtually every one I knew recognized that animal hide is essentially a waste byproduct, and it is better to use a waste byproduct than create more waste in the long run. Everyone knows the Recycling triangle symbol, but forgets that recycle is the third option. Reduce and reuse come first.

If you can create a synthetic that is more economic, durable and functional, go for it. That said, don't be shamed by others to use a waste by product that is almost impossible to beat. Virtually no cow has ever been killed for leather. They are killed for meat - then the leftover bits need to be disposed of, and leather is an excellent way to dispose of the hide.
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Ok, I am biased. I am the son of a rancher and ranch myself Before my time, my grandfather worked in the leather industry. The industry started in my part of Texas to deal with what to do with with the mountains of hides that were laying around and rotting (too common and expensive to ship). Hence my feeling that leather is simply a reprocessing of a waste byproduct.

 

[mattbrew]

Firstly, big shout out to Scott, Chris and all the Scout team. Absolutely gorgeous exterior and interior designs that have been revealed thus far.

The interior looks stunning! As a driver/passenger we only see the interior most of the time, and the Scout looks like it’ll be a very pleasant experience.

I’m really hoping some quality non-perforated leather seating will be offered as an option, ideally in some two-tone colors similar to the reveal vehicles.

I know there have been many requests for ‘washable’ or ‘cloth’ interior materials, but based on my experiences with my 4Runner and Land Cruiser, quality leather is a great option for day to day life.

Leather is easy to wipe down or vacuum when it gets dusty, pet fur does not get caught in leather, and food spills are not a problem if leather is cleaned promptly (we just keep beach towels handy when we’re planning on doing something outdoorsy).

VW already knows how to make the best perforated synthetic leather. Comfortable and looks like new for years.

 

[Scoutsie]

Vegan leather seems to be a nice new phrase for vinyl unless it’s the cuckoo-crazy mushroom or cactus variety of vegan leather. Leather is a byproduct and to me kind of goes with a zero-waste mindset, and if you’re going to pick nits about tanning, you ought to pick nits about what kind of energy goes into making vegan leather, computers, etc. etc. etc. because nobody’s going to win a rigged ethical purity test. I personally wish car seats were made of regular old interior upholstery fabric rather than leather or the weird meshy sport fabric used for cloth seats these days. If I can sit on a velour couch comfortably in the summer, I figure it can also work in a car.

 

[TimmyHil08]

Why can’t companies just go back to regular old leather?

Now with Vegan leather on the rise eventually cow hide will be thrown in the landfill, is that what we want? I thought we didn’t want to waste anything but all of as sudden we can throw away real cow hide for some vegan leather that will stretch out in one day or that will tear on the bolstering.

 

[Scoutsie]

Why can’t companies just go back to regular old leather?

Now with Vegan leather on the rise eventually cow hide will be thrown in the landfill, is that what we want? I thought we didn’t want to waste anything but all of as sudden we can throw away real cow hide for some vegan leather that will stretch out in one day or that will tear on the bolstering.

It’s good for business to use pleather or else it wouldn’t be used. If cow hides do end up in landfills, they’d break down the way they’re meant to do and it won’t take thousands of years. I don’t think they end up in landfills: from what I understand, pretty much no part of a cow goes unused or is just dumped (I think there’s a whole process for slaughterhouses about what gets done with whatever remains after everything that gets butchered out and sold is sold, but don’t ask me to quote it by heart).