Adventure Key - NFC wristband

[MountainDad]

I would like to see a means to lock and immobilize the vehicle, while leaving the vehicle key inside.

A great way to do this would be to have an NFC enabled passive key, say on a rugged, waterproof (100m) watch-like wristband, which is used to lock the vehicle, immobilize it, and temporarily deactivate the vehicle key such that if someone breaks in and gets hold of the actual key, than can't steal the vehicle.

I would use this when out hiking/backpacking/biking/kayaking/etc. - I don't want to take the chance that I'll lose the actual key, so I want to be able to keep it on my body.

I don't want this to be something rechargeable - it should be totally passive. It should be able to survive smacking on rocks, being frozen, getting soaked, etc.

On my Land Rover, this works by first closing all of the doors and windows, and then holding the key up to a particular point on the vehicle within a certain time limit. The vehicle then locks and arms the security system. To open the vehicle, I first press the trunk button, and within a certain time limit, I hold the wristband up to the same point on the vehicle, and it unlocks and disarms the security system.

 

[RebelliousPeasant]

I love this idea!

 

[MountainDad]

Tap this thing!

 

[Chaz26]

I'm hoping there won't be an actual key and more a card like Tesla that can just go in my wallet as I enjoy not having to ever carry any keys with me. And then have my phone (or the wristband you suggested or watch app) to do the main functions of the key.

 

[LastDayScout]

I would like to see a means to lock and immobilize the vehicle, while leaving the vehicle key inside.

A great way to do this would be to have an NFC enabled passive key, say on a rugged, waterproof (100m) watch-like wristband, which is used to lock the vehicle, immobilize it, and temporarily deactivate the vehicle key such that if someone breaks in and gets hold of the actual key, than can't steal the vehicle.

I would use this when out hiking/backpacking/biking/kayaking/etc. - I don't want to take the chance that I'll lose the actual key, so I want to be able to keep it on my body.

I don't want this to be something rechargeable - it should be totally passive. It should be able to survive smacking on rocks, being frozen, getting soaked, etc.

On my Land Rover, this works by first closing all of the doors and windows, and then holding the key up to a particular point on the vehicle within a certain time limit. The vehicle then locks and arms the security system. To open the vehicle, I first press the trunk button, and within a certain time limit, I hold the wristband up to the same point on the vehicle, and it unlocks and disarms the security system.

Volvo has something kinda like this. It is a waterproof, small fob without any buttons. Limited functions but it gets you in and starts the vehicle.

 

[Chaparral]

What about Apple CarKey support?

If this is implemented, an Apple Watch becomes a key for the vehicle, which is similar to the adventure band being proposed in this thread.

Anyone that already wears an Apple Watch would not need to wear an additional wrist band key or even take a traditional key with them at all!

This summer we were at a lake in a remote location. My wife lost her keys and we never found them. We were not stranded because I also had a key for her car. I really like the idea of Apple CarKey support because the Watch, being attached to your wrist, is less likely to get lost and if it does get lost the iPhone is also a key.

The physical Scout key fob should have location tracking built in. This would integrate with the major tracking network (I believe Apple and Google work together on this) so that any participating devices can privately listen for a lost fob and you can discover its location in an app.

 

[Mihenry]

I would like to see a means to lock and immobilize the vehicle, while leaving the vehicle key inside.

A great way to do this would be to have an NFC enabled passive key, say on a rugged, waterproof (100m) watch-like wristband, which is used to lock the vehicle, immobilize it, and temporarily deactivate the vehicle key such that if someone breaks in and gets hold of the actual key, than can't steal the vehicle.

I would use this when out hiking/backpacking/biking/kayaking/etc. - I don't want to take the chance that I'll lose the actual key, so I want to be able to keep it on my body.

I don't want this to be something rechargeable - it should be totally passive. It should be able to survive smacking on rocks, being frozen, getting soaked, etc.

On my Land Rover, this works by first closing all of the doors and windows, and then holding the key up to a particular point on the vehicle within a certain time limit. The vehicle then locks and arms the security system. To open the vehicle, I first press the trunk button, and within a certain time limit, I hold the wristband up to the same point on the vehicle, and it unlocks and disarms the security system.

How about Phone as a Key with integration in smart watches. I like your idea but would rather not have to wear something else on my wrist.

You can unlock house doors with your watch, why not the Scout?

Also, this is coming from someone who never takes their keys out of the car

 

[Mihenry]

What about Apple CarKey support?

If this is implemented, an Apple Watch becomes a key for the vehicle, which is similar to the adventure band being proposed in this thread.

Anyone that already wears an Apple Watch would not need to wear an additional wrist band key or even take a traditional key with them at all!

This summer we were at a lake in a remote location. My wife lost her keys and we never found them. We were not stranded because I also had a key for her car. I really like the idea of Apple CarKey support because the Watch, being attached to your wrist, is less likely to get lost and if it does get lost the iPhone is also a key.

The physical Scout key fob should have location tracking built in. This would integrate with the major tracking network (I believe Apple and Google work together on this) so that any participating devices can privately listen for a lost fob and you can discover its location in an app.

Agree here. This comes from someone, whose wife also lost a set of keys at an event but we were stranded.

I’d love key fob and vehicle tracking built in the app, but without, I’ll just AirTag them both.

But, I’d like to add a purpose designed spot for the key fob to live inside. My older E92, the fob inserts like a key while also recharging the fob. That’s not necessary, but our Alfa has a spot in the center to hold the fob as well as in the center console hidden away. It’s a must have if your spouse loses keys

 

[MountainDad]

How about Phone as a Key with integration in smart watches. I like your idea but would rather not have to wear something else on my wrist.

You can unlock house doors with your watch, why not the Scout?

Also, this is coming from someone who never takes their keys out of the car

This should be easy to do - my Polestar has an app that uses my phone as a key, but the idea of an "adventure Key" is that you don't need to wear it all the time, and there is no danger of a battery dying. What if you lose your phone or break your Apple Watch, or the batteries die? A passive NFC enabled wristband never dies.

Mine stays in my Land Rover's lockable glove box until I need it. Have worn it on multi-day backpack and backcountry ski trips. Have smashed and scraped it on granite slabs, where a smartwatch would have been pulverized.

 

[Moates442]

This should be easy to do - my Polestar has an app that uses my phone as a key, but the idea of an "adventure Key" is that you don't need to wear it all the time, and there is no danger of a battery dying. What if you lose your phone or break your Apple Watch, or the batteries die? A passive NFC enabled wristband never dies.

Mine stays in my Land Rover's lockable glove box until I need it. Have worn it on multi-day backpack and backcountry ski trips. Have smashed and scraped it on granite slabs, where a smartwatch would have been pulverized.

I think that is the most ingenious idea that LR came up with. I really hope Scout comes up with a version of it.

 

[Chaparral]

This should be easy to do - my Polestar has an app that uses my phone as a key, but the idea of an "adventure Key" is that you don't need to wear it all the time, and there is no danger of a battery dying. What if you lose your phone or break your Apple Watch, or the batteries die? A passive NFC enabled wristband never dies.

Mine stays in my Land Rover's lockable glove box until I need it. Have worn it on multi-day backpack and backcountry ski trips. Have smashed and scraped it on granite slabs, where a smartwatch would have been pulverized.

Apple Watch and iPhone both continue to function as keys after their batteries are dead. As power fades it switches from using UWB to NFC. (NFC requires proximity whereas UWB can unlock as you approach the vehicle). In order to work with no battery you need to have it set to not require biometrics, which can be added for higher security.

I’d take both my phone and watch into the backcountry with a way to charge them. Features like emergency communications via satellite are indispensable. If those devices are also back up vehicle keys I’d be really happy. Apple CarKey can easily be shared between devices, so multiple people in the group can be carrying a backup key.

 

[J Alynn]

I think there’s no reason all of these can’t be offered. Like LR the wristband is an upgrade but available. Phone could just be a link to individual user account and fob is the standard. Then everyone is happy

 

[cyure]

I know the new thing is to have apps and things to start the car.
Coming from a 2013 Wrangler I don’t even have push to start. Just a regular old key. It would be nice to have a modern key that has some sort of vintage outdoorsy feel to it. The new Rivian keys have a carabiner and it looks really cool and it’s functional. It would be nice to have a Scout distinctive key that isn’t just typical black plastic with a little bit of metal on it.

 

[J Alynn]

I know the new thing is to have apps and things to start the car.
Coming from a 2013 Wrangler I don’t even have push to start. Just a regular old key. It would be nice to have a modern key that has some sort of vintage outdoorsy feel to it. The new Rivian keys have a carabiner and it looks really cool and it’s functional. It would be nice to have a Scout distinctive key that isn’t just typical black plastic with a little bit of metal on it.

Here are some concepts from reveal. You’ll need to zoom in a bit

 

[J Alynn]

Here are some concepts from reveal. You’ll need to zoom in a bit

I like the square. Reminds me of a flint lighter. That could be a cool combo unit too so you always have a fire source

 

[cyure]

Here are some concepts from reveal. You’ll need to zoom in a bit

Oh thanks for that! I do like the square, it is different, but I still stand by reqeust to make it a different color than black. It seems like every key is black. Or keep the black and make the Scout logo on the back red. Give us some color! And we need Scout lanyards to wear our keys on! I am old school. Keys around my neck on a lanyard walking through wherever I am.

 

[dreamweaver]

My 2024 Lincoln offers keyless entry functionality via a key fob or by utilizing an iPhone or Apple Watch as a key. To initiate start, simply press the Push to Start button located in the dashboard.

However, it is important to note that using the iPhone as a key can significantly drain its battery. To mitigate this issue, I employ a feature that involves placing the key fob in the center console and locking the doors using the concealed keypad situated within the driver’s door B-pillar area. Upon doing so, the key fob within the vehicle becomes disabled and locked in the console. To regain access to the vehicle, simply use the hidden keypad to enter a code, unlocking the car, console, and reactivating the key fob.

 

[TaconicBear]

This should be easy to do - my Polestar has an app that uses my phone as a key, but the idea of an "adventure Key" is that you don't need to wear it all the time, and there is no danger of a battery dying. What if you lose your phone or break your Apple Watch, or the batteries die? A passive NFC enabled wristband never dies.

Mine stays in my Land Rover's lockable glove box until I need it. Have worn it on multi-day backpack and backcountry ski trips. Have smashed and scraped it on granite slabs, where a smartwatch would have been pulverized.

All these electronic solutions are fine until you roll your kayak or slip down a rockface and find yourself swimming in a swift mountain stream. My Toyotas have a slim little metal key that normally resides in the fob, but can fit in the key pocket of a tank suit, and will stay with you unless you go skinny-dipping. Its simplicity and invulnerability makes it a better solution.